[Zope] webdav + ms word (we have the same problem)

[Andreas Jung]

It is hard to figure out how a workaround should look like. In detail:
The readonly-problem occurs when Word tries to save a file.
It first sends a PROPFIND for the current folder and tries to retrieve
all properties. Zope answers with a spec-compliant multi-status
reply. Zope send for all objects in the current folder a similar reply.
There is no visible difference between .doc and .html/.htm files.

During sending the PROPFIND command Word requests
to send the values for uncommon properties like isreadonly, ishidden etc.
Zope responds according to RFC 2581 with an HTTP 404 code for
these unknown properties. So there is strong evidence that Word is
unable to handle the response in a correct way.

I agree that working with Word and Zope might be annoying but the problem
is really not on the Zope side. If anyone has an idea or any informations
how to
get around the problem, let me know.

Andreas Jung
Zope Corpation

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Robert Blesius" <crb@uni-hd.de>
To: <zope@zope.org>
Cc: <Joe.Gaffey@gradient.ie>; <Andreas@zope.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:13
Subject: Re: [Zope] webdav + ms word (we have the same problem)


> We are having a webdav + ms word problem as well and are also looking
> for a work around (this is a key feature... almost everyone that I know
> uses word).
>
> We are using Zope 2.4.1 on Solaris and Windows Web Folders (webdav)
> function on Win NT.
> It seems to work for word .doc files but not for .html or .htm files
> Word opens the file read only. The only way to save it is to save it
> under another name.
>
> Carl Blesius
> Heidelberg Medical School
>
> > Message: 46
> > Reply-To: "Andreas Jung" <andreas@zope.com>
> > From: "Andreas Jung" <andreas@zope.com>
> > To: "Joe Gaffey" <Joe.Gaffey@gradient.ie>,
> > <zope@zope.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Zope] webdav + ms word
> > Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:48:59 -0500
> > Organization: Zope Corporation
> >
> > I can't reproduce the problem at this time because my Window ME refuses
> > to work with any other webdav servers. The problem with 'index_html' is
> > that Office 2K tries to acquire a lock for 'index_html.' (yes,
> > index_html
> > plus a dot)
> > and then it seems to be confused about the answers it gets from Zope.
> >
> > Andreas
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joe Gaffey" <Joe.Gaffey@gradient.ie>
> > To: "Andreas Jung" <andreas@zope.com>; <zope@zope.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 04:28
> > Subject: RE: [Zope] webdav + ms word
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I love Zope but this is annoying me: I install the basic zope 2.4.1 ->
> > untar
> >> Zope-2.4.1-linux2-x86.tgz, run install and run start.  I open
> >> index_html
> > (in
> >> the root dir) in MSWord (as the initial user - admin) it says
> >> read-only.
> > Am
> >> I doing something silly? Has anyone else experienced this?
> >>
> >> Joe.
> >>
> >> PS Running Mandrake Linux.  Also tried with the src install - same
> >> result
> > :(
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of
> >> Andreas Jung
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:25 PM
> >> To: Joe Gaffey; zope@zope.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Zope] webdav + ms word
> >>
> >>
> >> MS Word (tested with Office 2K) should work with Zope 2.4.X. We made
> >> some workarounds in Zope to support Office 2K. The problem is that
> >> the Webdav implementation of Office 2K is worse. One general rule when
> >> working with
> >> Office 2K and Zope: avoid filenames that don't contain a dot (use
> > index.html
> >> instead of index_html). Sorry, but blame Microsoft for their s*cking
> >> software.
> >>
> >> Andreas
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Joe Gaffey" <Joe.Gaffey@gradient.ie>
> >> To: <zope@zope.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:11
> >> Subject: [Zope] webdav + ms word
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> What is the current status with the problem whereby one can't edit
> >> existing
> >>> zope 'files' in MS Word?  IE they come up as read-only. I read
> >>> somewhere
> >>> that this is related the level of webdav locking that Office 2000
> > expects.
> >>> (is this true).
> >>>
> >>> I am using zope 2.3.3, but a first glance at zope 2.4.1 and the
> >>> problem
> >>> doesn't seem to have gone away.
> >>>
> >>> Does anybody know what I should do to get around this?  Did any of you
> >> guys
> >>> who posted about this before ever get any satisfactory workarounds?
> >>>
> >>> PLease Help,
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Joe.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Joe Gaffey
> >>> Software Developer
> >>> Gradient - a Sabre Company
> >>>
> >>> Ormonde House Tel: + 353 1 2400 500
> >>> 12 Lower Leeson Street Fax: + 353 1 2400 501
> >>> Dublin 2 Email: joe.gaffey@gradient.ie
> >>> Ireland
> >>>
> >>> Web: www.gradient.ie
> >>> www.sabre.com
>
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