[Zope] Kind words from a neighbor - OFF TOPIC

Pierre-Julien Grizel grizel@mouli.net
Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:32:33 +0200 (CEST)


Rich,


I'll try my best not to make my answer too much off-topic - but it's 
difficult as your post was.
As a Zope community member, I can tell you what I feel torwards "the
most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth". 
It's very simple.

I'm the author of the FIRST Zope Book ever published in book shops (I mean, 
printed in paper, given an ISBN and published through regular book shop 
circuit - I now and I do appreciate Beehive work, they did their very good 
ebooks long before I wrote my book but that's not the point here). It was 
June, 15, 2001 and I'm very proud of that work.

Did you ever hear about my name ?

I don't think so.

Because I'm french. Because I wrote the book in French (even if a 
translation is pending) and because when I told people I had written the 
first Zope book on paper no one cared.
I did a huge work (650 pages !!!!) to promote Zope and the Zope community 
in France and in Europe (how many hundred million people speak french, 
mhhh ?), and I didn't receive any spontaneous thank you from anyone in USA.

That's my point of view. I don't blame anyone for this and I still do 
appreciate the Zope community, everyone at Zope Corp and everyone involved 
in the Zope projects - all over the world including USA. But it's sad to 
think that if I would have liked to have a single consideration from 
american zopists I'd have had to write my book in english.
No way. I'm french, I respect American people (I wrote this email in 
english, after all ! that's one of the many way I have to express my 
respect for you - even if my english writing is sometimes... cahotic !), so 
I do expect that you american people respect us outside USA - by not 
forwarding such messages.



BTW, don't even ask if we lost people in the WTC disaster. Two friends of 
mine are somwhere under the debrits of the WTC. Many thanks for your 
pleasant message.



Hoping that such off-topic discussion won't take place anymore in the Zope 
mailing list,


Regards,


P.-J.




> Dear ,
> 
> I don't usually pass along stuff that's forwarded to me, but  this,
> from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> America: The Good Neighbor.
> 
> Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a
> remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a
> Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his
> trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record:
> 
> "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the
> most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the
> earth. 
> 
> Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted
> out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of
> dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is
> today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United
> States.
> 
> When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans
> who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on
> the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.
> 
> When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that
> hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened
> by tornadoes.    Nobody helped.
> 
> The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars 
> into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are
> writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans.
> 
> I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the
> erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any
> other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet,
> the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly
> them?
> 
> Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes?
> 
> Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on
> the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You
> talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles.
> 
> You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon -!
> not once, but several times - and safely home again.
> 
> You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the
> store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not
> pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them,
> unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars
> from ma and pa at home to spend here.
> 
> When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down
> through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the
> Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody
> loaned them an old caboose.  Both are still broke.
> 
> I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other
> people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else
> raced of the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help
> even during the San Francisco earthquake.
> 
> Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned
> tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this
> thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to
> thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present
> troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those."
> 
> Stand proud, America!
> 
> This is one of the best editorials that I have ever read regarding the
> United States. It is nice that one man realizes it. I only wish that
> the rest of the world would realize it. We are always blamed for
> everything and never even get a thank you for the things we do.
> 
> I would hope that each of you would send this to as many people as you
> can and emphasize that they should send it to as many of their friends
> until this letter is sent to every person on the web. I am just a
> single Amerian that has read this.
> 
> I SURE HOPE THAT A LOT MORE READ IT SOON.
> 
> 
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