[Zope] Zope in intranet - the cool apps?

Sun, 4 Aug 2002 08:43:34 +0200

I would be happy to help with such an effort.

I have been dealing with CMFWiki lately to integrate the subscribe facility.
So I could offer my support in helping to maintain CMFWiki.
Robert
----- Original Message -----
From: "Heimo Laukkanen" <huima@fountainpark.org>
To: <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 2:35 AM
Subject: [Zope] Zope in intranet - the cool apps?

> This is an email to open discussion about development of Zope
> applications to be used somewhere where they could mean a lot - in
> intranets, used by people who don't want to use hacker stuff, but do
> work - more likely do work better than in real life, in just personal
> contacts with people.
>
> Groupware applications - email, PIM, calendar are out of this
> discussion. That should be a whole discussion of it's own and have
> connections to possible real calendar servers ( are there? ) and tools
> that poeple use ( handheld compatible etc.). Other people are allready
> trying to or have tried to solve these challenges.
>
> However I would like to talk and discuss with others about the other
> applications, the stuff that makes the difference and could be really
> important for the success of Zope.
>
> My favourites.
>
> 1. CMF
>
>   No questions asked. This is the thing that is a great foundation to
> build on top of. You can count Plone to this section too, since it is
> just a skin.
>
> But CMF is a priority in many people's lists, so I am not worried about
> that. I just wish it would be bigger and better even faster ,-)
>
> One thing that is missing from CMF, is a way to create new content types
> more easily than ZClasses or Python Products. I mean something like
> Metapublisher but butter userinterface and all. It would be so great if
> user could just select the fields they want and create new type and
> later on even modify it with the same tool. Ofcourse the new type would
> be made either as a ZClass or python product so that experienced users
> would be able to extend them easily. That would be - kewl.
>
> 2. CMF Wiki / ZWiki
>
> ZWiki is taken care of and developed all the time(?), but CMF Wiki is not.
>
> For me CMFWiki is great - fantastic, absolutely perfect tool for
> intranet. Building knowledge has never been faster, and it works inside
> CMF - great!
>
> It would be really great thing, if someone or a group of people - who
> are comfortable with creating CMF-applications could possibly take over
> the CMFWiki and work with ZWiki developer Simon to make combine these
> efforts in a way that development being done with ZWiki could be taken
> automaticly in use with ZWiki. Just like a wrapper.
>
> 3. ZUBB / CMF Forum
>
> Threaded discussions - and usamble inside CMF. This is needed. Squishdot
> or it's possible future reincarnation Swishdot are also a nice thing,
> but for different purpose I suppose.
>
> What I like is a simple - intuitive threaded discussions that people
> will feel comfortable to use as soon as they see it. We don't need many
> different discussion applications, we need just one - really good and
> customizable.
>
>
> 4. Some way to access files in filesystem LocalFS or similar?
>
> In intranets this is nice, cool and very good thing to have - since in
> many cases you will have a big pile of old files somewhere on samba
> share or otherwise.
>
> People want to save and use files in really easy way, in many cases it
> is through the windows explorer. Or access the files through intranet.
>
> Compared to samba share or similar problems are allways the smae.
> Locking - how to upload files etc. People are not ready to do something
> more complicated than what they are used to, forexample write metadata
> to files etc.
>
> If it was in windowsexplorer that a popup windows would come up and user
> would have to type, or user would have the possibility to type the
> metadata, then it would happen. Maybe.
>
> Here is possibly some work to be done in the future.
>
> I have a couple of wishes or thougths:
>
>    1) There would have to be an easy way to share files when things are
> still cooking and people just throw files back and forth. Possibly
> normal network folders ( samba share ) is the best way to do this.
>
>    2) Files and folders from local filesystem should be easily copied
> into Zope system, so that they are created as a full CMF-objects and
> user has to either type in metadata or metadata is automaticly created.
> In this sense at this phase the files are like first time published
> publicly and made available for others.
>
>    3) Or everything would be in a cool versioning system that would also
> automaticly site behind windows explorer extension and objects would be
> accessed from zope through some interface.
>
> Or something else?
>
>
>
> What else do you have in intranet running and what should be developed?
> How do you see Zope as an appserver running corporate intranet?
>
>
>
> ----
>
>
> While writing this email I've been watching Abyss SE from DVD. Had
> totally forgetten how great film this was, amazing underwater feelings
> and great images packed to a movie with love and pasifistic - be a
> better person towards everyone - message. Damn. This is a movie to watch
> once every three years,-)
>
>
> -huima
>
>
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