[Zope] Something like ezPublish in Zope....
Jorge O. Martinez
jmartinez@emediamillworks.com
Fri, 30 Aug 2002 14:21:52 -0400
I would like to say I'd accept the challenge, but unfortunately still don't
have the Zope Zen needed to do some of that stuff I see in ezPublish...I have
been able to scratch Zope's surface, and do a couple of simple things with it,
but that's it, that was why I was seeking boxed solutions for more advanced stuff.
Jorge M.
Ausum Studio wrote:
> From: "Jorge O. Martinez" <jmartinez@emediamillworks.com>
>
>>Hi:
>>
>>I don't know of a demo open for the public, but I have installed it in my
>
> dev
>
>>machine at home (where I also have Zope, CMF, PostNuke, etc.), and it does
>
> have
>
>>separation of content/presentation/logic, so you can change the look
>
> radically
>
>>from the 'standard' look it comes. I also like you can have as many
>>categories/subcategories, you can place an article in more than one
>
> category,
>
>>there's a way for internationalization, and there are other modules that
>
> can be
>
>> easily added. Also the admin screen is very easy to use, and can be
>
> easily
>
>>taught to a total newbie. Not that all of the above cannot be done in
>
> Zope, I
>
>>am just saying that comes out of the box with ezPublish...
>
>
> I've looked at the screenshots and certainly I'm impressed by them. Not that
> much as I keep needing a working demo in order to try it out, though :)
>
>
>>ezPublish is not PHPNuke or PostNuke (both considered by many excellent
>>software, I reserve my opinion either way ;-), ezPublish offers much more
>>flexibility and chance for customization than these.
>
>
> For people following this thread and who haven't seen PostNuke, as it was
> mentioned here, you may create a an admin account here, and then judge for
> yourselves:
> http://postnuke.bloodymongrel.com/demo/
>
>
>>I was thinking the best of both worlds would be if the ezPublish
>
> developers
>
>>decided to port it to Zope...;-)
>
>
> I think it's more likely that Zope includes or recreate ezPublish's features
> that other developers port its software to another platform. Anyway I think
> it is a nice challenge to review and mentally improve what you see from
> other suites, and then create your own version for Zope. Would you accept
> it? :)
>
>
>
> Ausum
>
>
>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Jorge M.
>>
>>
>>Ausum Studio wrote:
>>
>>>Is there a working demo you know about?
>>>
>>>I remember to have arrived to ezPublish's site, and also to have left it
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> in
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>>>a heartbeat, just after reading "PHP" and relating it to Post/PHP Nuke.
>>
> Of
>
>>>these last, I had the chance to test drive PostNuke at its online demo,
>>
> and
>
>>>I came up to the conclusion that although it is a little more featured
>>>out-of-the-box than CMF+Plone+ZZen, what was implemented was not the way
>>
> I'd
>
>>>like a community site to be, and so I decided not to try it. (PostNuke
>>
> is
>
>>>supossed to be more featured than PHPNuke.)
>>>
>>>The problem with OOTB suites is that it causes all the web sites to look
>>
> the
>
>>>same, and therefore clients concerned about this urging us developers to
>>
> be
>
>>>more creative and even more intuitive when creating a site's experience.
>>>Nonetheless, as they are a great marketing for the platform behind them,
>>
> it
>
>>>would be good to know what EzPublish can do so that we could surpass its
>>>features in a future skin release.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Ausum
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Jorge O. Martinez" <jmartinez@eMediaMillWorks.com>
>>>To: <zope@zope.org>
>>>Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:34 AM
>>>Subject: [Zope] Something like ezPublish in Zope....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi:
>>>>
>>>>First of please don't flame me if I sound like a devil's advocate
>>>
> here...
>
>>>>Does anybody know of a product as complete/mature as ezPublish (a CMS
>>>
>>>built
>>>
>>>
>>>>with PHP/Mysql, it's at http://publish.ez.no) in Zope?
>>>>
>>>>I have checked out CMF, and Plone, but although they are very nice, in
>>>
> the
>
>>>case
>>>
>>>
>>>>of CMF, it seems that it does not have all the features that ezPublish
>>>
> has
>
>>>out
>>>
>>>
>>>>of the box, and with Plone, there's still no 'stable' release as of this
>>>>writing. Besides, both of these products seem oriented mainly towards
>>>
>>>building
>>>
>>>
>>>>collaborative web sites where all members eventually post news and info,
>>>
>>>and do
>>>
>>>
>>>>not seem to be oriented towards 'topic and/or category' driven sites
>>>
>>>maintained
>>>
>>>
>>>>by a handful of people only. I am not saying it cannot be done with
>>>
> Zope.
>
>>>I
>>>
>>>
>>>>have also checked ZopeZen's code, but it's not as full-featured as
>>>
>>>ezPublish.
>>>
>>>
>>>>I know zope has the basis to build everything that exists in ezPublish,
>>>
>>>but I
>>>
>>>
>>>>was wondering if there's a Zope CMF that's similar in features and
>>>
>>>stability as
>>>
>>>
>>>>ezPublish out of the box.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>
>>>>Jorge M.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Jorge O. Martinez
>>>>MIS Senior Associate
>>>>FDCH-eMedia Inc.
>>>>2400 Forbes Blvd., Suite 200
>>>>Lanham, MD 20706
>>>>E-mail => jmartinez@eMediaMillWorks.com
>>>>Phone => (301)731-1228 ext. 105
>>>>Fax => (301)731-0937
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>--
>>Jorge O. Martinez
>>MIS Senior Associate
>>FDCH-eMedia Inc.
>>2400 Forbes Blvd., Suite 200
>>Lanham, MD 20706
>>E-mail => jmartinez@eMediaMillWorks.com
>>Phone => (301)731-1228 ext. 105
>>Fax => (301)731-0937
>>
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Jorge O. Martinez
MIS Senior Associate
FDCH-eMedia Inc.
2400 Forbes Blvd., Suite 200
Lanham, MD 20706
E-mail => jmartinez@eMediaMillWorks.com
Phone => (301)731-1228 ext. 105
Fax => (301)731-0937