[Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server?

[Eron Lloyd]

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integrated as possible, as soon as possible. The truth is, when developin=
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network applications, you *will* usually need several different disparate=
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systems, like HTTP, IMAP, and LDAP. This is a big reason why platforms li=
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MS Exchange are so popular. Also, as in projects like KDE, users benefit =
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the *tight* integration of it's applications. When building a Web communi=
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email, and messaging servers are all based on the same platform. Compared=
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administration, configuration, and communication facilities. So I guess t=
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is why the conversation keeps coming back up...users *want* that level of=
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integration. Zope already has one foot in the door in this respect. So to=
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it's never a matter of wheel re-invention, but a matter of integration an=
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need. The old UNIX adage, "do one thing well" is pretty much a thing of t=
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past.

Cheers,

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On Sunday 08 December 2002 11:06 am, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
> dirk hits it on the head.
>
> why reinvent the wheel? it is not that hard to install and run OpenLDAP
> and even create your own custom schemata. and then there are products
> that enable you to maintain the data in LDAP from within zope itself.
>
> what's next, a gopher server for zope? ;)
>
> jens
>
> P.S.: i agree that it would be a somewhat cool thing. but is the
> undoubtedly large effort worth it? you'll work a lot and never match
> the capabilities of a real LDAP server.
>
> On Sunday, Dec 8, 2002, at 10:10 US/Eastern, Dirk Datzert wrote:
> > Stephan Richter schrieb:
> >> On Sunday 08 December 2002 09:43, Luca Olivetti wrote:
> >>> Dirk Datzert wrote:
> >>>> Hi Luis,
> >>>>
> >>>> Zope is an application server, where you can run your own
> >>>> LDAP-administration software.
> >>>>
> >>>> But the LDAP-Server is a standalone server which is not zope !
> >>>>
> >>>> You can bind users in zope against users in LDAP (with
> >>>> LDAPUserFolder)
> >>>> but this did not mean that zope is a LDAP-Server.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, but imagine the opposite: that you have a contacts database in
> >>> zope
> >>> and want it to be useable by, say, mozilla or any other mail client
> >>> that
> >>> can query ldap servers for its address book.
> >>
> >> Well, start an effort to write an LDAP server on top of Zope. LDAP i=
s
> >> a
> >> complex protocol; I would be glad to see a Zope-based server. There
> >> is an
> >> LDAP server module for Twisted you might want to check out for a
> >> start.
> >
> > I would suggest: put the contacts database on a real LDAP-Server (e.g=
=2E
> > openldap - full functional and very well working LDAP-server)
> >
> > Write on top of Zope your management tool for that contacts database.
> > There are some products to do this: LDAPUserFolder +
> > LDAPDirectoryManager
> >
> > -> use the right tool for the right issue, don't reinvent the wheel !
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dirk
> >
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