[Zope] Heeeeeeeeeeeeelp (login problem)
Breuer, Yvon
YBreuer@tee.toshiba.de
Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:42:33 +0200
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Hi again,
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Charlie asked me several questions (thanx for trying to help!) wich I'll =
answer below:
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By the way:
Because I have a Dutch windows version, some of the output is in Dutch, =
but I don't think it will be a big problem because these outputs are =
always in a standard layout.
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-----------------------------------------------------------
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Computer turned on?
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Yep, looks like it. ;-))
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-----------------------------------------------------------
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Ms Internet Explorer version?
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I've upgraded from 4.0 (not 4.5) to 6.0.
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-----------------------------------------------------------
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Windows version?
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C:\>ver
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Windows 98 [Versie 4.10.1998]
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(That is: Second Edition)
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-----------------------------------------------------------
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Output of: ping 127.0.0.1
C:\>ping 127.0.0.1
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Pingen naar 127.0.0.1 met 32 byte gegevens:
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Antwoord van 127.0.0.1: bytes=3D32 time<10ms TTL=3D128
Antwoord van 127.0.0.1: bytes=3D32 time<10ms TTL=3D128
Antwoord van 127.0.0.1: bytes=3D32 time<10ms TTL=3D128
Antwoord van 127.0.0.1: bytes=3D32 time<10ms TTL=3D128
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Pingstatistieken voor 127.0.0.1:
Packets: verzonden =3D 4, ontvangen =3D 4, kwijtgeraakt =3D 0 (0% =
verlies),
Retourtijd bij benadering in milliseconden:
Minimum =3D 0ms, Maximum =3D 0ms, Gemiddeld =3D 0ms
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-----------------------------------------------------------
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TCP stack installed?
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Huh? Guess not...
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(How can I check this?)
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-----------------------------------------------------------
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Output of: ipconfig /all?
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C:\>ipconfig /All
Windows 98 IP-Configuratie
Opdrachtregelopties:
/All - Gedetailleerde informatie weergeven.
/Batch [file] - Naar bestand schrijven of ./WINIPCFG.OUT
/renew_all - Alle adapters vernieuwen.
/release_all - Alle adapters vrijgeven.
/renew N - Adapter vernieuwen N.
/release N - Adapter vrijgeven N.
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(That's all output! Therefore I tried the same command without options =
(see following).)
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Output of: ipconfig
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C:\>ipconfig
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Windows 98 IP configuratie
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0 Ethernet adapter :
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IP-adres . . . . . . . . . . . : 169.254.183.194
Subnetmasker . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Standaardgateway . . . . . . . :
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1 Ethernet adapter :
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IP-adres . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnetmasker . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Standaardgateway . . . . . . . :
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-----------------------------------------------------------
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Output of: netstat -n -a
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C:\>netstat -n -a
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Actieve verbindingen (=3D Active connections)
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Proto Lokaal adres Extern adres Status
TCP 127.0.0.1:1030 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 169.254.183.194:137 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 169.254.183.194:138 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 169.254.183.194:139 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
UDP 127.0.0.1:1030 *:*
UDP 169.254.183.194:137 *:*
UDP 169.254.183.194:138 *:*
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Telnet to Zope possible?
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C:\>telnet 127.0.0.1 8080
Result: Cannot connect to 127.0.0.1
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-----------------------------------------------------------
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Proxy system installed?
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Yes, to dail-in to my ISP a proxy is used.
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I.E. Menu: Extra - Internet options - Connections
Never choose a connection
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I.E. Menu: Extra - Internet options - Connections - Settings
Use proxy-server for this connection: On
Proxy-server --> proxy.hetnet.nl
Port --> 8080
Do NOT use proxy-server for local addresses --> On
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The way I see it, allthough I've got myself a NIC it still doesn't work, =
because my network settings are not ok. But I don't know how to make =
them correct.
You see, I know how to program (at least I think I do...) but I'm not =
into networking stuff (as you already found out :-) ).
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Hopefully this can contribute to solving my problem!!!
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Best regards,
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Yvon Breuer
-----Original Message-----
From: Charlie Reiman [ <mailto:creiman@kefta.com> =
mailto:creiman@kefta.com]
Sent: Donnerstag, 18. Juli 2002 19:34
To: Breuer, Yvon; zope@zope.org
Cc: tpassin@mitretek.org; renfro@tntech.edu; plasser@hexagon.at;
douwe@oberon.nl
Subject: RE: [Zope] Heeeeeeeeeeeeelp (login problem)
More suggestions & questions:
* Do you have some sort of proxy system installed?
* can you telnet to zope? "telnet 127.0.0.1 8080"
* what's the output from "netstat -n -a"?
* what's the output from "ipconfig /all"?
* can you ping yourself? "ping 127.0.0.1"
* is the TCP stack installed?
* is the computer plugged in and turned on? :-)
Now that I wrote those out, you probably should try them in reverse =
order...
It sounds like you have basic networking issues. Unfortunately, you've =
got
them under '98 which means most of us will wince and tell you to upgrade =
to
NT/2000/XP/Linux, which I know you probably don't want to hear. To be
honest, I'm not even sure if netstat and ipconfig are available under =
'98.
I wish I could be more help. Of course, I wish Microsoft never reased =
'98,
too.
-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [ <mailto:zope-admin@zope.org> =
mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Breuer,
Yvon
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 1:10 AM
To: zope@zope.org
Cc: tpassin@mitretek.org; renfro@tntech.edu; plasser@hexagon.at;
douwe@oberon.nl
Subject: RE: [Zope] Heeeeeeeeeeeeelp (login problem)
Hi again,
First of all I'd like to thank those who've been trying to help me.
Unfortunately it hasn't been successfull so far. So, here's an update on =
the
current status. Maybe you'll find more info to help me out. :-)
When I wrote my first mail (see below) this was how START.BAT looked =
like:
Trying offline with no NIC installed, see attachment: no_nic_offline.txt
Trying online with no NIC installed, see attachtment: no_nic_online.txt
And my hosts.sam file looked like this (still does), see attachment:
hosts.txt
After your tips I tried several but --as you already understood-- =
without
success. So, I got myself a NIC and installed it. It was recognized by =
Win98
and drivers were installed. Now I tried to login offline again but =
unluckily
again without success. This is how START.BAT looked like:
with_nic_offline.txt
Other settings etc.:
Windows 98 SE
Computername: POPEYE
Browser: Ms Internet Explorer 4.5
Zope version: 2.5.1
Zope superuser: StJohnHospital
NB: Everytime I tried to login, I used all of the following addresses:
<http://localhost:8080/manage> http://localhost:8080/manage
<http://popeye:8080/manage> http://popeye:8080/manage
<http://127.0.0.1:8080/manage> http://127.0.0.1:8080/manage
<http://StJohnHospital:8080/manage> http://StJohnHospital:8080/manage
Hopefully this leads to solving my problem!
Many thanks!
Yvon Breuer
-----Original Message-----
From: Breuer, Yvon
Sent: Dienstag, 16. Juli 2002 10:30
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Heeeeeeeeeeeeelp (login problem)
Hi Zope-wizards,
As you can see in my subject: I'm getting quite frustrated by some =
stupid
error when I'm trying to login to my Zope server. (Yep, I'm a newbie...)
Situation
I'm going to create a website to gather funds for a hospital in Ghana =
(St.
John of God Hospital in Duayaw Nkwanta).
To get an idea about the situation:
<http://www.zwo.nhl.nl/hbov/buitenlandstage/ghana.html> =
http://www.zwo.nhl.nl/hbov/buitenlandstage/ghana.html (Dutch & English).
Website
I want to do this with Zope & Python. I want people to be able to do =
online
donations, retrieve information about the project, maybe send a =
mailinglist
to keep them up to date and there are many more plans. So: I've got a =
lot to
learn...
Learn & develop @ work & @ home
In order to learn as quickly as possible I tried to install Zope at work =
and
at home (of course during my break ;-) ). At work (Win2000 Prof.),
everything functions OK. I've done the tutorial and I'm now working =
myself
through the ZopeBook. So far so good, but...
My problem
At home I've installed Zope (2.5.1) on my computer (Win98). No errors
occured during installation. So, just like at work I tried to login to =
Zope
for the first time, but...
When I start the START.BAT, my computer starts a dial-in to my
internetprovider! It seems this occurs when START.BAT is trying to =
retrieve
my hostname. When START.BAT is finished, I type in...
<http://127.0.0.1:8080/manage> http://127.0.0.1:8080/manage (START.BAT =
comes up with 127.0.0.1 as localhost
and 8080 as port)
<http://popeye:8080/manage> http://popeye:8080/manage or =
<http://popeye:8021/manage> http://popeye:8021/manage (popeye is the
computername in my Win98 network-settings and START.BAT comes up with =
popeye
as localhost for port 8021)
<http://localhost:8080/manage> http://localhost:8080/manage (should =
always work, right? Not!)
<http://stjohnhospital:8080/manage> http://stjohnhospital:8080/manage =
(stjohnhospital is the superuser I
installed Zope with)
... but none of them works!!!
All that happens is that my browser (MsIE) when I'm offline shows me =
that
the page cannot be found and when I'm online it shows me either "server
error" or "page not found". >:-((
NB: It doesn't matter wether I login to my internprovider or not. I'm =
quite
sure it's nonesense to be online in order to login to a local =
Zope-server,
but hey, I've tried everything possible (as far as I know). I also tried =
to
un- and reinstall Zope, but that didn't work either. :-(
So please, help me out here!!! (In a short while I've got some days off =
and
I want to do some work for the website at home.) Not only me, but also =
the
people we're trying to help will be very gratefull! ;-))
Best regards,
Yvon Breuer
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<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Hi =
again,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Charlie asked me several questions (thanx for =
trying to=20
help!) wich I'll answer below:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff>By the way:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Because I have a Dutch windows version, some =
of the=20
output is in Dutch, but I don't think it will be a big problem because =
these=20
outputs are always in a standard layout.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana=20
size=3D2>-----------------------------------------------------------</FON=
T></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV><STRONG>Computer turned=20
on?</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Yep, looks like it. =
;-))</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana=20
size=3D2>-----------------------------------------------------------</FON=
T></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2><STRONG>Ms Internet Explorer=20
version?</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>I've upgraded from 4.0 (not 4.5) to=20
6.0.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana=20
size=3D2>-----------------------------------------------------------</FON=
T></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2><STRONG>Windows =
version?</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DVerdana>C:\>ver</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Windows 98 [Versie 4.10.1998]</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>(That is: Second Edition)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana=20
size=3D2><STRONG>--------------------------------------------------------=
---</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT> </DIV><FONT =
face=3DVerdana>Output of:=20
<STRONG>ping 127.0.0.1</STRONG></FONT></FONT></DIV><BR><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New">C:\>ping 127.0.0.1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New">Pingen naar 127.0.0.1 met 32 byte=20
gegevens:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New">Antwoord van 127.0.0.1: bytes=3D32 =
time<10ms=20
TTL=3D128<BR>Antwoord van 127.0.0.1: bytes=3D32 time<10ms =
TTL=3D128<BR>Antwoord van=20
127.0.0.1: bytes=3D32 time<10ms TTL=3D128<BR>Antwoord van 127.0.0.1: =
bytes=3D32=20
time<10ms TTL=3D128</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New">Pingstatistieken voor=20
127.0.0.1:<BR> Packets: verzonden =3D 4, ontvangen =3D =
4,=20
kwijtgeraakt =3D 0 (0% verlies),<BR>Retourtijd bij benadering in=20
milliseconden:<BR> Minimum =3D 0ms, Maximum =3D =
0ms,=20
Gemiddeld =3D 0ms</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana=20
size=3D2>-----------------------------------------------------------</FON=
T></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DVerdana>TCP stack =
installed?</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Huh? Guess not...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>(How can I check this?)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana=20
size=3D2>-----------------------------------------------------------</FON=
T></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Output of: <STRONG>ipconfig=20
/all?</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New">C:\>ipconfig /All<BR>Windows 98=20
IP-Configuratie<BR>Opdrachtregelopties:<BR> /All - Gedetailleerde=20
informatie weergeven.<BR> /Batch [file] - Naar bestand schrijven of =
./WINIPCFG.OUT<BR> /renew_all - Alle adapters=20
vernieuwen.<BR> /release_all - Alle adapters=20
vrijgeven.<BR> /renew N - Adapter =
vernieuwen=20
N.<BR> /release N - Adapter vrijgeven =
N.<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>(That's all output! Therefore I tried the same =
command=20
without options (see following).)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana=20
size=3D2>-----------------------------------------------------------</FON=
T></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Output of: =
<STRONG>ipconfig</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New">C:\>ipconfig</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New">Windows 98 IP configuratie</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New">0 Ethernet adapter :</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier =
New"> =20
IP-adres . . . . . . . . . . . :=20
169.254.183.194<BR> =
Subnetmasker . . .=20
. . . . . . : 255.255.0.0<BR> =20
Standaardgateway . . . . . . . :</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New">1 Ethernet adapter :</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier =
New"> =20
IP-adres . . . . . . . . . . . :=20
0.0.0.0<BR> Subnetmasker . . . =
. . . .=20
. . : 0.0.0.0<BR> =
Standaardgateway . .=20
. . . . . :<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana=20
size=3D2>-----------------------------------------------------------</FON=
T></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Output of: <STRONG>netstat -n =
-a</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>C:\>netstat -n -a</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana><FONT face=3D"Courier New">Actieve=20
verbindingen</FONT><FONT color=3D#ff0000> (=3D Active=20
connections)</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"> Proto Lokaal=20
adres Extern=20
adres Status<BR> =20
TCP =20
127.0.0.1:1030 =20
0.0.0.0:0 &nbs=
p; =20
LISTENING<BR> TCP =
169.254.183.194:137 =20
0.0.0.0:0 &nbs=
p; =20
LISTENING<BR> TCP =
169.254.183.194:138 =20
0.0.0.0:0 &nbs=
p; =20
LISTENING<BR> TCP =
169.254.183.194:139 =20
0.0.0.0:0 &nbs=
p; =20
LISTENING<BR> UDP =20
127.0.0.1:1030 =
*:*<BR> =20
UDP 169.254.183.194:137 =
*:*<BR> =20
UDP 169.254.183.194:138 =
*:*<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana=20
size=3D2>-----------------------------------------------------------</FON=
T></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana><STRONG>Telnet to Zope =
possible?</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>C:\>telnet 127.0.0.1 8080<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Result: Cannot connect to =
127.0.0.1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana><FONT face=3DArial>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana=20
size=3D2>-----------------------------------------------------------</FON=
T></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana><STRONG>Proxy system =
installed?</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Yes, to dail-in to my ISP a proxy is =
used.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana><STRONG>I.E. Menu: Extra - Internet options -=20
Connections</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Never choose a connection</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana><STRONG>I.E. Menu: Extra - Internet options -=20
Connections - Settings</STRONG></FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Use proxy-server for this connection: =
On</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Proxy-server =
--> proxy.hetnet.nl</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Port --> 8080</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Do NOT use proxy-server for local =
addresses=20
--> On</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana=20
size=3D2>-----------------------------------------------------------</FON=
T></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV></DIV></FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV></DIV><=
/FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>The way I see it, =
allthough I've=20
got myself a NIC it still doesn't work, because my network settings are =
not ok.=20
But I don't know how to make them correct.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>You see, I know how =
to program (at=20
least I think I do...) but I'm not into networking stuff (as you already =
found=20
out :-) ).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Hopefully this can =
contribute to=20
solving my problem!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Best =
regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Yvon =
Breuer</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR></DIV>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Courier New">-----Original =
Message-----<BR>From:=20
Charlie Reiman [</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:creiman@kefta.com"><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New">mailto:creiman@kefta.com</FONT></A><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New">]<BR>Sent: Donnerstag, 18. Juli 2002 19:34<BR>To: =
Breuer,=20
Yvon; zope@zope.org<BR>Cc: tpassin@mitretek.org; renfro@tntech.edu;=20
plasser@hexagon.at;<BR>douwe@oberon.nl<BR>Subject: RE: [Zope] =
Heeeeeeeeeeeeelp=20
(login problem)<BR><BR><BR>More suggestions & questions:<BR><BR>* Do =
you=20
have some sort of proxy system installed?<BR>* can you telnet to zope? =
"telnet=20
127.0.0.1 8080"<BR>* what's the output from "netstat -n -a"?<BR>* what's =
the=20
output from "ipconfig /all"?<BR>* can you ping yourself? "ping =
127.0.0.1"<BR>*=20
is the TCP stack installed?<BR>* is the computer plugged in and turned =
on?=20
:-)<BR><BR>Now that I wrote those out, you probably should try them in =
reverse=20
order...<BR><BR>It sounds like you have basic networking issues. =
Unfortunately,=20
you've got<BR>them under '98 which means most of us will wince and tell =
you to=20
upgrade to<BR>NT/2000/XP/Linux, which I know you probably don't want to =
hear. To=20
be<BR>honest, I'm not even sure if netstat and ipconfig are available =
under=20
'98.<BR><BR>I wish I could be more help. Of course, I wish Microsoft =
never=20
reased '98,<BR>too.<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:=20
zope-admin@zope.org [</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:zope-admin@zope.org"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New">mailto:zope-admin@zope.org</FONT></A><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New">]On Behalf Of Breuer,<BR>Yvon<BR>Sent: Thursday, =
July 18,=20
2002 1:10 AM<BR>To: zope@zope.org<BR>Cc: tpassin@mitretek.org;=20
renfro@tntech.edu; plasser@hexagon.at;<BR>douwe@oberon.nl<BR>Subject: =
RE: [Zope]=20
Heeeeeeeeeeeeelp (login problem)<BR><BR><BR>Hi again,<BR><BR>First of =
all I'd=20
like to thank those who've been trying to help me.<BR>Unfortunately it =
hasn't=20
been successfull so far. So, here's an update on the<BR>current status. =
Maybe=20
you'll find more info to help me out. :-)<BR><BR>When I =
wrote my=20
first mail (see below) this was how START.BAT looked like:<BR>Trying =
offline=20
with no NIC installed, see attachment: no_nic_offline.txt<BR>Trying =
online with=20
no NIC installed, see attachtment: no_nic_online.txt<BR>And my hosts.sam =
file=20
looked like this (still does), see attachment:<BR>hosts.txt<BR><BR>After =
your=20
tips I tried several but --as you already understood-- =
without<BR>success. So, I=20
got myself a NIC and installed it. It was recognized by Win98<BR>and =
drivers=20
were installed. Now I tried to login offline again but =
unluckily<BR>again=20
without success. This is how START.BAT looked=20
like:<BR>with_nic_offline.txt<BR><BR>Other settings etc.:<BR>Windows 98=20
SE<BR>Computername: POPEYE<BR>Browser: Ms Internet Explorer 4.5<BR>Zope =
version:=20
2.5.1<BR>Zope superuser: StJohnHospital<BR>NB: Everytime I tried to =
login, I=20
used all of the following addresses:<BR></FONT><A=20
href=3D"http://localhost:8080/manage" target=3D_blank><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New">http://localhost:8080/manage</FONT></A><BR><A=20
href=3D"http://popeye:8080/manage" target=3D_blank><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New">http://popeye:8080/manage</FONT></A><BR><A=20
href=3D"http://127.0.0.1:8080/manage" target=3D_blank><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New">http://127.0.0.1:8080/manage</FONT></A><BR><A=20
href=3D"http://StJohnHospital:8080/manage" target=3D_blank><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier =
New">http://StJohnHospital:8080/manage</FONT></A><BR><BR><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New">Hopefully this leads to solving my =
problem!<BR><BR>Many=20
thanks!<BR><BR>Yvon Breuer<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: =
Breuer,=20
Yvon<BR>Sent: Dienstag, 16. Juli 2002 10:30<BR>To: =
zope@zope.org<BR>Subject:=20
[Zope] Heeeeeeeeeeeeelp (login problem)<BR><BR><BR>Hi =
Zope-wizards,<BR><BR>As=20
you can see in my subject: I'm getting quite frustrated by some =
stupid<BR>error=20
when I'm trying to login to my Zope server. (Yep, I'm a=20
newbie...)<BR><BR>Situation<BR>I'm going to create a website to gather =
funds for=20
a hospital in Ghana (St.<BR>John of God Hospital in Duayaw =
Nkwanta).<BR>To get=20
an idea about the situation:<BR></FONT><A=20
href=3D"http://www.zwo.nhl.nl/hbov/buitenlandstage/ghana.html" =
target=3D_blank><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier =
New">http://www.zwo.nhl.nl/hbov/buitenlandstage/ghana.html</FONT></A><FON=
T=20
face=3D"Courier New"> (Dutch & English).<BR><BR>Website<BR>I want to =
do this=20
with Zope & Python. I want people to be able to do =
online<BR>donations,=20
retrieve information about the project, maybe send a mailinglist<BR>to =
keep them=20
up to date and there are many more plans. So: I've got a lot=20
to<BR>learn...<BR><BR>Learn & develop @ work & @ home<BR>In =
order to=20
learn as quickly as possible I tried to install Zope at work and<BR>at =
home (of=20
course during my break ;-) ). At work (Win2000 Prof.),<BR>everything =
functions=20
OK. I've done the tutorial and I'm now working myself<BR>through the =
ZopeBook.=20
So far so good, but...<BR><BR>My problem<BR>At home I've installed Zope =
(2.5.1)=20
on my computer (Win98). No errors<BR>occured during installation. So, =
just like=20
at work I tried to login to Zope<BR>for the first time, but...<BR>When I =
start=20
the START.BAT, my computer starts a dial-in to my<BR>internetprovider! =
It seems=20
this occurs when START.BAT is trying to retrieve<BR>my hostname. When =
START.BAT=20
is finished, I type in...<BR></FONT><A =
href=3D"http://127.0.0.1:8080/manage"=20
target=3D_blank><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New">http://127.0.0.1:8080/manage</FONT></A><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New"> (START.BAT comes up with 127.0.0.1 as =
localhost<BR>and 8080=20
as port)<BR></FONT><A href=3D"http://popeye:8080/manage" =
target=3D_blank><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New">http://popeye:8080/manage</FONT></A><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New">=20
or </FONT><A href=3D"http://popeye:8021/manage" target=3D_blank><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New">http://popeye:8021/manage</FONT></A><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New">=20
(popeye is the<BR>computername in my Win98 network-settings and =
START.BAT comes=20
up with popeye<BR>as localhost for port 8021)<BR></FONT><A=20
href=3D"http://localhost:8080/manage" target=3D_blank><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New">http://localhost:8080/manage</FONT></A><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New"> (should always work, right? Not!)<BR></FONT><A=20
href=3D"http://stjohnhospital:8080/manage" target=3D_blank><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New">http://stjohnhospital:8080/manage</FONT></A><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New"> (stjohnhospital is the superuser I<BR>installed =
Zope=20
with)<BR>... but none of them works!!!<BR>All that happens is that my =
browser=20
(MsIE) when I'm offline shows me that<BR>the page cannot be found and =
when I'm=20
online it shows me either "server<BR>error" or "page not =
found". =20
>:-((<BR><BR>NB: It doesn't matter wether I login to my =
internprovider or=20
not. I'm quite<BR>sure it's nonesense to be online in order to login to =
a local=20
Zope-server,<BR>but hey, I've tried everything possible (as far as I =
know). I=20
also tried to<BR>un- and reinstall Zope, but that didn't work=20
either. :-(<BR><BR>So please, help me out here!!! (In a =
short while=20
I've got some days off and<BR>I want to do some work for the website at =
home.)=20
Not only me, but also the<BR>people we're trying to help will be very=20
gratefull! ;-))<BR><BR>Best regards,<BR><BR>Yvon=20
Breuer<BR><BR></FONT></FONT></P></BODY></HTML>
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