[Zope] future direction (was "problems with SiteRoot in Zope2.5.1")

[Trevor Toenjes]

There has been a community project afoot that stalled a few months ago to
address much of your concern with documenting products.  It stalled because
developing a production process that fits everyone's current development
skill level, favorite tools, and time commitments is challenging.
The NZO (new.zope.org) project is meant to be THE community project to
alleviate ZC's  sole duties of maintaining the community's website.

Below is a link to the new Products screen that is only waiting for final
development and then deployment.
http://www.zope.org/Members/trevor/productspage/

We need HELP! to finish this project. Migrating the old "software product"
data to the new schema requires much more time than just conceiving a GUI.

Now that you know that ZC is trying to get the community to control all
documentation on zope.org, please join the zope-web@zope.org mailing list
and lend a hand.  PLEASE, pretty please.  We, as a community, just need to
pick up the ball and finish the game.

Yvon had a couple new subtle points that I will add to the "vision" of the
new products section.

Cheers,
Trevor



Jack, Charlie, and Yvon supposedly said:

> >> Jack Coates:
> >> So, speaking as a perennial Zope newbie, I have to say that I'm getting
> >> nervous about seeing all the things that I use fall one-by-one into the
> >> "that's depreciated, use this other cool product instead." I
> don't think
> >> I have a right to complain, but I'm complaining any way :-)
>
> > Charlie Reiman:
> > Technically, no, you don't have a right to complain but you do
> have a very
> > good point. I'd like to echo it and point out the problem is
> exacerbated by
> > zope.org not having a strong way of marking docs and products
> as deprecated.
> > I hate finding a cool product, downloading and installing, only
> to learn it
> > fell out of fashion with 2.something. Ideally, such pages
> should be marked
> > and linked to whatever is the latest greatest substitute or
> just marked as
> > dead to Zopes 2.x+
>
> I totally agree!
>
> Maybe it's an idea to create a list (or database, or spreadsheet)
> on Zope.org
> that shows the 'preferred product' per task.
> Since I'm quite new to Zope it's better that someone more experienced
> creates it AND keeps it up to date (otherwise it wouldn't be usefull). :-)
>
> Something like this I think would be helpfull:
> - task
> - short task description
> - preferred product
> - short preferred product description
> - since when it's a preferred product
> - since which Zope-version it's a preferred product
> - link to extensive product description
>
> Hopefuly somebody has a crack at it. ;-)
>
> Yvon Breuer
>
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