check the caching settings on that wince browser. it seems to cache too aggressively. jens On Wednesday, Sep 11, 2002, at 01:28 US/Eastern, harry lee wrote: > for reasons that aren't clear to me, I can see NONE of the changes I > made to my standard header using a ce 2.11 browser. the changes were > nothing to brag about. just baby steps. > I'm confused. they show up fine on ie6.