[Zope] WYSIWYG Editor for Zope.

[J Cameron Cooper]

While it is indeed a better idea to have users edit content and not markup,=
 if you do insist on it you will have a much easier time with Page Templa=
tes.

Page Templates were designed (among other reasons) to deal with the very pr=
oblem you describe below: many (most?) HTML editors have issues with the =
dtml tags, since, in general, they think they know better than the source=
 they are given. That's generally not a problem with attributes to standa=
rd tags (as in PTs) since most editors will realize that there can exist =
attributes they will know nothing about.

Another neat thing about PTs is that so long as the macro attibutes remain =
in place, you can present whole-seeming pages to your users, and they can=
 change the page at will without damage to the surrounding structure of y=
our finally-rendered page. With DTML, you're often working with HTML frag=
ments.

If you're worried about difficulty, don't be. Page Templates can look a lit=
tle intimidating at first (there are a bunch of seemingly-cryptic charact=
ers), but it isn't bad at all. I did DTML for a long time, but since I sw=
itched to Page Templates, I can barely think in DTML at all.

As for editing, especially with PTs, you can also, say, mount Zope as a Web=
DAV "drive" and use whatever editor you want. Some can do WebDAV themselv=
es (Macromedia?). The ExternalEditor product is also something to look at=
 (even if just for administrative use.)

I'd really like to see some sort of Zope tool that uses the Mozilla editor =
widget in-place (it might indeed exist somewhere), perhaps as part of a l=
arger management suite. But that's a whole different kettle of fish.


           --jcc

-----Original Message-----
From: "Javier de la Torre" <javi@reggae-news.net>
To: <zope@zope.org>
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:25:34 +0100
Subject: [Zope] WYSIWYG Editor for Zope.

Hi.

I'm new in this list and this is my first message to the community :)

Well, here come my question.

I've been searching around for a Wysiwyg editor that i could include to edi=
t the content of my DTML documents.
I founded some web pages (here is a list of possibilities) explaining how t=
o integrate an IE Editor inside Zope but after the instalation of it (the=
 one from vsbabu.org exactly because it also has the posibilities to incl=
ude images and links from the server) i founded a very anoying problem.
When you edit a document with this Microsoft Editing control it removes my =
<dtml-var standard_html_header> and starts writing after my <dtml-var sta=
ndard_html_footer>.

So it brokes the structure of my page.

My final idea is... i've got a web page managed by non technical users. In =
every web page there's a link to an administration page where they will h=
ave this visual control to edit the contents of this specific page. This =
will make everything very easy.

I can't understand why this kind of tool is not more developed for Zope whe=
n probably it will make the editing of documents no so awful for non tech=
nical persons.

Thanks in advance.

Bye!

me web pages (here is a list of possibilities) explaining how to integrate =
an IE Editor inside Zope but after the instalation of it (the one from vs=
babu.org exactly because it also has the posibilities to include images a=
nd links from the server) i founded a very anoying problem.
When you edit a document with this Microsoft Editing control it removes my =
<dtml-var standard_html_header> and starts writing after my <dtml-var sta=
ndard_html_footer>.

So it brokes the structure of my page.

My final idea is... i've got a web page managed by non technical users. In =
every web page there's a link to an administration page where they will h=
ave this visual control to edit the contents of this specific p