[Zope] can zope port to java/dotnet?

Asad Quraishi aquraishi@skyesystems.com
Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:54:37 -0500


There's been a lot of discussion on the tread you started - I'll add my
2 cents.

I don't believe there's any need to port to Java or .Net just because
there is 'too small' a community of python developers. Here's a good
reason to give python a shot. There are few things python can't do that
java can that are useful in a medium-sized system which applies to
99.99% of all systems. As soon as you move to .Net you are held hostage
for a number of reasons: you will pay for everything. How many .Net open
source projects will you find? Reason is that .Net developers pay for
their OS, IDE, and server licenses - why should they give away their
code for free? You are missing out on the fact that the python community
is an open community where much code is shared. The value of this
sharing or intellectual capital is very high - higher IMO than that of a
ready-made python community.

I encourage you to take a look at the website http://www.skippingdot.net
where the author talks about zope, python, linux and .Net. It's not
super-in-depth but boy is it in line with this thread.

I also agree that a visual studio-like ide is untirely uneccsary for a
good developer. It is more heavily needed by beginners than experts.
There is no reason, either, that a beginner should need this either. It
may take you longer to get productive without an automate-everything ide
but you'll end up a far better developer for it.

Python is not slow.

Asad Quraishi
Skye Object Systems Inc.


Chen Fu wrote:

>Hi!
>
>I like zope for its pure OO framework. is it the only
>work among the CMSs take this design? If it is true,
>why not any other clone in java, c# or cpp? 
>
>I agree Python is a good language, but it faces many
>challenges also like relative slow speed, short of
>programmer(compare with java cpp) and short of elite
>programming environment (like MS visual studio).
>
>Some articles explain why the zope can't port from
>CPython to JPython. But how about a rebuild in pure
>java/cpp/c#? is it possible and deserved?
>
>This is only an crude idea for I have just several
>months experience in zope.
>Any argument is welcome :)
>
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