[Re: [Zope] MAILBOXER questions]

[Paul Resnikoff]

Thanks all for the very valuable feedback.  Yes, George has been great at
Zettai.net, I am definitely confused on the various moving parts of this as a
mail and Zope newbie.  

I will read more documentation, and attempt to clarify exactly what roles are
played by the various components: qmail, ezmlm, and Mailboxer.  Frankly I have
no idea where one starts and the other ends, so any "in a nutshell"
explanations will be greatly appreciated.

I have gotten various commands to work within ezmlm to change various parts of
the mailings (footer, header, etc.), and have been able to manipulate various
settings like privacy, moderator controls, etc. 

The clarity will help me down the road, as I am having trouble figuring out
some basic things, like:

(1) how to figure out who has subscribed and unsubscribed to the list (where
to access the logs)?
(2) how to create HTML emails (I think I need a plug in to make this work,
which I am going to install)

Thanks again, Paul

george donnelly <list at zettai.net> wrote:

> [Duncan McGreggor wrote (duncan at adytumsolutions.com) on 9/12/03 1:28 PM]
> 
> > Hmm, well this isn't mailboxer -- this is the ezmlm program that comes
> > with qmail. It's qmail's list management.
> 
> hi, I have made this point to Paul off list.
> 
> > Here's my synical guess: you asked you ISP to help you setup mailboxer
> > for mail lists with qmail and Zope. They heard "mail lists" and "qmail",
> > hit their automatic button (which turns off the parts of the brain that
> > listen for unfamiliar data, and in fact shuts down all further
> > communication for a default period of time before a reset).
> > Unfortunately, their automatic button doesn't give you what you need.
> 
> very cynical indeed. ;/ we (Zettai.net) are the ISP and we do know what
> we're doing and we set Paul's Mailboxer up correctly, as we have with other
> clients, its just that I believe Paul has confused the two.
> 
> > I've not messed with qmail in an ISP/restricted environment, but here's
> > a couple things that could put this within your power to solve:
> > 
> > 1) read up on qmail's aliases, the "-" (dash) notation for lists
> > 2) use the dash notation to create an email address in a domain (name)
> > for which you have access (which may only be a permutation on your user
> > name)
> > 3) read the qmail/mailboxer doc here:
> > http://zope.org/Members/adytumsolutions
> > 4) experiment with smtp2zope.py
> 
> yes, he is set up correctly. we have other clients with the same setup
> reporting success with MailBoxer. Its a confusion issue.
> 
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