[Zope] Production Advice

[robert rottermann]

Jonathan Cyr wrote:
> Thanks for the input...
> 
> Would there be any advantage to setting up the ZEO server by tarball, 
> and setting up the multiple ZEO clients as YAST2 installed.  I haven't 
> setup the new 2.7-based ZEO yet, only 2.6-based.

With 2.7 ZEO is installed as part of Zope (but not used)
So no more extra tarballs. Just create as many Zope clienst using 
mkzopeinstance and one ZEO using mkzeoinstance.

> 
> How stable is SuSE 9.1, new kernel right, as to Python & Zope, threads 
> and such?  I read a post somewhere with concerns, with a 2.6 beta.
We are using 9.1 on some of the development  boxes, no Problem known.

> 
> Any scripts for backup on the new 2.71 arrangement?

Nothing changed since 2.6 in this realm

Robert

> -Jon Cyr
> cyrj at cyr.info
> 
> Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
> 
>>
>> There are various problems with using a Zope setup that is included 
>> with a Linux distribution:
>>
>> - They are almost always outdated
>>
>> - They employ their own policies as far as software layout is 
>> concerned that might conflict or at least have nothing in common 
>> anymore with a standard from-source install. This can become 
>> problematic when you need to try and stitch a package in that is not 
>> also pre-built for that specific setup.
>>
>> - As the never-ending questions about "I installed Zope RPM from XYZ 
>> and now I cannot log in" it seems that these RPM setups, since they 
>> can't insert the step to create the admin user during install like the 
>> source version can, make it harder for  inexperienced Zope users
>>
>> - On the mailing lists users of such built-in packages are much more 
>> likely to be greeted with silence or told to upgrade or install from 
>> source if they encounter problems. No one wants to debug problems 
>> potentially caused by packaging, and few people want to help with 
>> outdated packages.
>>
>> IMHO what it amounts to is that it's *not* easier to use preconfigured 
>> and pre-built packages. It is potentially way more frustrating.
>>
>> jens
>>
>>
>>> On Sat, 2004-07-03 at 14:25, robert rottermann wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jerome R. Westrick wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> SuSE is reknown for delivering over 2000 programs preconfigured.
>>>>> It does not constantly update theese to the latest version.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I would expect that you would not have the same version of Zope
>>>>> delivered via SuSE as the one you downloaded and installed yourself on
>>>>> windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would:
>>>>> 1) install Zope from SuSE cd's.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> NO!
>>>> Do not do that!
>>>>
>>>> Install both Python and and Zope from Source
>>>>
>>>> It is dead easy and done in a coupple of minutes.
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise you do not know what you have.
>>>> And you can not use Zope V2.7x great configuration policies.
>>>>
>>>> I do run Zope on a couple of Suse boxes (8.1-9.1). First I did Jerry
>>>> proposes. However installing from the sources is far easier.
>>>>
>>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>
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