[Zope] Production Advice

[Jerome R. Westrick]

On Sat, 2004-07-03 at 19:19, robert rottermann wrote:
> Sorry if I sounded a bit harsh.
> 

Nope Problem you where rushing to save someone for what you thought
(think) was bad advice...

Your unselfishness (how's that for a word?) is noted and you are
respecred for your efforts...

(Are we being polite enough?)


> Jerome R. Westrick wrote:
> > And does the Zope Sources provide the rczope alais /etc/init.d/zope
> > scripts for him, to start/stop the zope components?
> yes it does. However a  bit different. with the command mkzopeinstance 
> you can construct zope instance within seconds. each one with its own 
> controllscript. They are meant to be added to init.d.
> This is only nearly  as easy to use as the rc machinery but it is much 
> more flexible. With standard SuSE Zope it is quiet an undertaking to 
> have a second zope running on a different port. With a custom install it 
> is very easy.
> 
I've never needed 2 zope on one machine, but then I've only got an 2
itsy bitsy applications in production.

Jerry
> Robert
> > 
> > The gist of my suggest was to get a working Zope "environment" 
> > (which in my terms means automatic start/stop, logging, etc),
> > and then to update...
> > 
> > But, please do, if you got a better way, explain how to bind the freshly
> > downloaded zope inot the SuSE environment.  What init.d/scripts are you
> > using?
> > 
> > 
> > Jerry
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, 2004-07-03 at 14:25, robert rottermann wrote:
> > 
> >>Jerome R. Westrick wrote:
> >>
> >>>SuSE is reknown for delivering over 2000 programs preconfigured.
> >>>It does not constantly update theese to the latest version.
> >>>
> >>>So I would expect that you would not have the same version of Zope
> >>>delivered via SuSE as the one you downloaded and installed yourself on
> >>>windows.
> >>>
> >>>I would:
> >>>1) install Zope from SuSE cd's.
> >>
> >>NO!
> >>Do not do that!
> >>
> >>Install both Python and and Zope from Source
> >>
> >>It is dead easy and done in a coupple of minutes.
> >>
> >>Otherwise you do not know what you have.
> >>And you can not use Zope V2.7x great configuration policies.
> >>
> >>I do run Zope on a couple of Suse boxes (8.1-9.1). First I did Jerry 
> >>proposes. However installing from the sources is far easier.
> >>
> >>Robert
> >>
> >>
> >>>2) download and update that with the same version as your developement.
> >>>
> >>>I've been using the SuSE delivered version in production for years.
> >>>It's a bit old, but, I didn't really need the latest and greaatest, just
> >>>rock solid stability.  And that SuSE has provided for me.
> >>>
> >>>Obviously, I'm a SuSE fan.
> >>>
> >>>Jerry
> >>>
> >>>On Fri, 2004-07-02 at 23:44, Jonathan Cyr wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Greetings All,
> >>>>
> >>>>After a long dev cycle, I'm putting a Zope web app into production
> >>>>shortly... and need some advice.
> >>>>
> >>>>What is a good daily backup strategy with Zope 2.71?
> >>>>
> >>>>I'll be running ZEO, and only use three add-on products, Formulator,
> >>>>VarImage and PIL.  My application consists of regular items in the ZODB,
> >>>>two python Products, and a half-dozen ZClasses
> >>>>
> >>>>Right now, I'm developing on a WinXP machine, and am considering SuSE
> >>>>9.1 for my spec, any experiences, good or bad?... YAST2-installed or
> >>>>manually?
> >>>>
> >>>>All advice would be helpful as I weigh my options,
> >>>>
> >>>>-Jon Cyr
> >>>>cyrj at cyr.info
> >>>>
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