[Zope] Zope is a POS.

[Garito]

Jason Leach wrote:

>Are any of these significant detriments with Zope addressed in 2.7 or later?
>
>0. No standard DB support.
>I don't think ZPoPyDa has been updated since 2001.  I'm sure that
>fills new developers with lots of confidence.  Perhaps it works fine,
>but it's not being improved.  Perhaps other DB interfaces are better. 
>But then again ZSQL Methods are still ancient and in DTML.
>
>1. Build in user management.
>This is stupid.  The user management is good for companies of 10
>people or so but what good is that to web application or ecomm site? 
>You going to hand add users?  The only solid product for this is
>LDAPUserFolder, the rest should still be in beta.
>
>2. Debugging.  
>This is worse.  It is so complicated to debug Products or Zope crap I
>can't believe it.  This is relative to PHP or JSP or ASP; all I have
>worked with.
>
>3. Python
>Keeping python up to date to use products.  Pain in the ass.
>
>4. DTML/ZPT
>Seems 90% of Products are in DTML yet ZPT seems like the obvious thing
>to use. Fine, except when you need to tweak a product and then have to
>learn DTML. PHP is PHP same  for the most part with ASP (all VB if you
>like) or JSP (all java if you like).
>
>Honestly. If I new know what I do about zope I would not recommend it
>for commercial development.  Go with a product that lots of people are
>using, this way you are ensured that components will be well supported
>and improved over time. Not dropped because the author has moved on.
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No problem, don't recomend it (its pretty clear you don't undersand 
Zope) jejejeje

To the rest: some critiques are not quite unjust, we need to work 
stronger! ;)