[Zope] Zope is a POS.

[Garito]

Hermann Himmelbauer wrote:

>On Wednesday 13 October 2004 22:47, Garito wrote:
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>>Andreas Jung wrote:
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>>>--On Mittwoch, 13. Oktober 2004 9:15 Uhr -0700 Jason Leach
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>>><jason.leach at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>0. No standard DB support.
>>>>I don't think ZPoPyDa has been updated since 2001.  I'm sure that
>>>>fills new developers with lots of confidence.  Perhaps it works fine,
>>>>but it's not being improved.  Perhaps other DB interfaces are better.
>>>>But then again ZSQL Methods are still ancient and in DTML.
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>>>There are enough DB adapters available for nearly every DB available.
>>>DAs are not shipped with the Zope core. If you need a particular DA
>>>you can easily download and install it. What is your problem with ZSQL
>>>methods? They are known to work fine (as instance in the ZODb or on
>>>the filesystem). Do you know a better framework for specifying
>>>SQl queries in a generic way?
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>>This is my opinion and only my opinion: I think Zope has a DB (object
>>oriented one). For that, I think that DB connectors are for backward
>>compatibility with your ancien software but I would like to migrate data
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>I'm no specialist, but I think that's not true: An object oriented database is 
>perfect for storing objects. But there are cases where you just don't need to 
>store objects and the relational model fits better. Table joins and things 
>like that are handy and surely not "ancient".
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>Moreover relational databases are nowadays very stable and proven, support 
>special hardware, scale extremely well etc. 
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>Regards,
>Hermann
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Then why use object oriented aproach?
If I think object and then store "data" I need a conversion but If I 
think objects and store objects no conversion needed, isn't it?
Sometimes is difficult to change our minds
Cheers!