[Zope] Disgraceful

[David Hassalevris]

Asad,

Your ego is of no interest to us.


---- Original Message ----- 
From: "Asad Habib" <ahabib at engin.umich.edu>
To: "Paul Winkler" <pw_lists at slinkp.com>
Cc: <zope at zope.org>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Disgraceful


> Paul, I appreciate all the time and effort you have invested in Zope and I
> also appreciate the investment of other members. However, I don't feel
> that any member has the right to be rude to another member because of
> their seniority. In fact, one would expect a senior member to serve as a
> role model for starters.
>
> In the past I have been snubbed by several members for reasons unknown
> to me(in particular, Jung and Maurer). These two seem to think that they
> own the group and have insulted me as well as others on numerous
> occasions. I appreciate their input and the time they have invested in
> Zope, but does this give them the right to abuse others?
>
> Also, on numerous occasions people have made assumptions about what I did
> or did not do before posting a question to the group. I usually spend a
> couple of hours trying to diagnose the problem myself before posting it to
> the group. However, the solution is sometimes not evident. Does this give
> other members the right to degrade me?
>
> This is the point that Mike was trying to make. Thanks for listening Paul.
>
> - Asad
>
>
> On Fri, 24 Sep 2004, Paul Winkler wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 01:07:38PM -0400, Tiller, Michael (M.M.) wrote:
> > > <rant>
> > > This is such a bunch of bullshit.  I am so tired of "the answer is out
> > > there somewhere, why can't you find it yourself?" being the
> > > justification for not helping people who ask reasonable questions.  To
> > > add insult to injury Asad was being quite courteous (e.g. he went so
far
> > > as to thank you for your initial response) and you guys just start
> > > jumping all over him.
> > >
> > > Please explain to me why the mailing list should be a
> > > solution-of-last-result???
> >
> > It's not. But IMHO posting a perfectly valid solution in 10 minutes,
> > followed by a pointer to well-written documentation, and a hint
> > that the API is well documented in the source code (frequently it's
> > not so this is good to know!)... is a damn good response
> > and I don't think anybody should be faulted for that.
> >
> > In this case I think the wrong guy got jumped on for a general
> > trend of "solve my problem for me" posts.
> > To Asad:  I don't think you did anything wrong, but your second post
> > could have maybe been more informative (e.g. what's wrong with the
> > first solution?  have you read the Sessions chapter in the online zope
> > book?  Have you looked at the relevant parts of the API Reference?)
> >
> > Chill out folks, this is nothing to fight about.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Paul Winkler
> > http://www.slinkp.com
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