[Zope] Disgraceful

[Garito]

Andreas Jung wrote:

>
>
> --On Freitag, 24. September 2004 18:18 Uhr -0400 Asad Habib 
> <ahabib at engin.umich.edu> wrote:
>
>> In the past I have been snubbed by several members for reasons unknown
>> to me(in particular, Jung and Maurer). These two seem to think that they
>> own the group and have insulted me as well as others on numerous
>> occasions. I appreciate their input and the time they have invested in
>> Zope, but does this give them the right to abuse others?
>>
>
> Stop posting such a bullshit.. in this particular case you asked a 
> question and got a solid
> solution for your problem. Do you expect that people like Dieter, me 
> and many others have
> nothing better to do than reading documentation for YOU? Please keep 
> in mind that you get
> a lot of software for free and a lot of support for free  BUT there is 
> a certain amount of energy, motivation
> and time that we are willing to help other people. If you want help 
> *for free* than you should
> consider to follow some basic rules and perform some basic 
> investigations on your own.
> Is it hard for you  in this particular case to open the Zope Book and 
> to read the Sessions chapter?
> Since you could write a posting I do assume that you can read. This is 
> a very minor expectation
> that I have.  People complained in the past and in the present about 
> the lack of documentation.
> People have written documentation. E.g. Chris McDonough spent a lot of 
> hours (of his free time)
> to maintain the Zope Book. Of course it is your free choice to ignore 
> documentation and to bother
> people about things that are written down but don't expect to get help 
> from people willing to help
> if they feel that the person asking question is just too lazy.
>
> -aj
>
>
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Les say something very very interesting: REAL EXAMPLES
In order to finish this futile "conversation" we could thought new ways 
to improve the Zope Book to:

    1.- Liberate Zope Book's writers of  a little work (Why not a wiki 
with writers only editing permission? I supose they have this by now)
    2.- Approximate Zope (and Zope Book) to the real life including real 
examples (good idea Les)

More ideas?