[Zope] Plone/Zope on Debian Sarge

[Chris Withers]

Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote:
>>Don't install Zope from OS packages like debian, they never get it right
>>and you will just end up getting confused ;-)
> 
> I don't come to this conclusion at all. 

That's 'cos you haven't run into the problems that come with using OS 
packages and the added level of maintenence they require (by the os 
package maintainers) - yet!

> The only problem with the debian
> package is that people on this list who don't know what is going on give
> unhelpful answers.

Are you including yourself in that group? ;-) The recommendations not to 
use OS packages come from bitter experience of people who've experienced 
weird edge case errors and totally out of date software versions as a 
result of using OS packages, Debian and RedHat being prime examples...

> This is the message that is printed by debian's /etc/init.d/zope2.7 when
> no instances exist yet. Run mkzope2.7instance to make an instance.  As was
> already mentioned, all this is explained by debconf when you install
> debian on Zope. It's probably a bug worth fixing, though. It should say
> "No instances have been created yet".

Yes, my point exactly. If you use a standard source install, many more 
people will have seen any message you see and are likely to be able to 
help. Adding non-standard setup scripts like this means there's another 
opportunity for bugs to creep in and something else that needs to be 
maintained.

> I think it's worth installing the zope package, but not the products from
> the debian packages, unless they are zope2.7 packages, but there aren't
> many of those.

Yes, layering a pluggable distribution system over a plugin system seems 
somewhat bizarre...

cheers,

Chris

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