[Zope] Does anyone care whether we deprecate <Your Favourite Part of Zope>

David H bluepaul at earthlink.net
Thu Apr 7 02:03:08 EDT 2005


Andrew Milton wrote:

>I think people on this list need to realize that eventually, the direction of
>any significantly large Open Source project is hijacked by the relatively
>small number of people actually doing the work.
>
>The reasons for this are many-fold, but, normally come down to a lack of
>communication between the developers and the users, which is realized in a
>lack of understanding by the developers of what the users want.
>
>This for the most part isn't generally a problem, until, the developers start
>to do things "for the user's own good", like remove features that are
>"kludgey", or a "hack", or <insert some other reason>, which generally means
>either noone wants to work on it, or some other change caused it to break, and
>noone wants to fix it.
>
>Now to the credit of the Zope guys, they actually poll the users to find out,
>rather than just announce the demise of something. However, in general once 
>you add a feature, you can be guaranteed, that somewhere, someone is using 
>it, so removing it will always cause a problem. So there will always be an
>uproar when you poll.
>
>You're never going to be able to reduce the feature set between point
>releases without upsetting some group of people. So why don't we stop all this
>nonsense now, and just agree, that you're never going to do that d8) You have
>Zope 3 to remove all the stuff you hate d8)
>
>In my opinion if you change something, it's your responsibility to fix the
>resulting breakage. That's part of your responsibiliity to the rest of the
>community (i.e. the [mostly non-paying] customers). If you don't think you
>have this responsibility to us, then you should work on your own version of
>Zope, where you're not impacting anyone else.
>
>For the record, I hate ZClasses... d8)
>
>  
>
I wish Terri Shiavo had as much compassion as ZClasses.




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