[Zope] ZPT tutorial

[Chris McDonough]

The Zope Book says this in its preface FWIW:

To make effective use of the book, you should know how to use a web
browser and you should have a basic understanding of HTML (Hyper Text
Markup Language) and URLs (Uniform Resource Locators). You don't need to
be a highly-skilled programmer in order to use Zope, but some
programming background (particularly object-oriented programming) will
be extremely helpful.



On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 09:04 +0100, Mark Barratt wrote:
> Andreas Jung wrote:
> > --On 21. Juni 2005 23:04:12 +0100 Mark Barratt <markb at textmatters.com> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> or there's PHP, where the communities are probably more newbie-friendly
> >> and there are loads of tutorials.
> >>
> > Don't compare PHP with Zope. PHP is a tiny language compared to the fat 
> > Zope frameworks. Working with Zope on the scripter level (ZPT, DTMl, 
> > ZSQL) requires similar skills as a PHP programmer. If you want to go 
> > beyond you have approach open-minded and come a with some solid 
> > knowledge in programming and understanding architectural issues in Zope. 
> > But when I read some questions here then I have the impression that 
> > people except that Zope solves their problems although neither they 
> > don't understand the problems themselves nor have the basic skills to  
> > reach the goal.
> > That's not a but being newbie-friendly but one can expect as certain 
> > level of knowledge when you're working with Zope...e.g. the knowledge 
> > how HTML works (that's something kids learn at school nowadays).
> 
> I agree with all this, though I suspect you underestimate how little 
> many newcomers know, and not just about HTML, where they may have been 
> inflicted with Front Page or learned in Dreamweaver, where you don't 
> have to either write code or do things 'properly'. But also about the 
> big leap required to get from <title>Something</title> to <title 
> tal:content="template/title|context/title">Untitled Document</title>.
> 
> I think we (the Zope community) should try to be clearer in telling 
> newcomers what the 'entry requirements' are.
>