[Zope] Using Structured Text and HTML-quote together for RSS 2.0

[Jonathan Cyr]

Hi Peter,

Happy to have the choice, don't get me wrong.  I found DTML very easy, 
I'm old school and generate all of my HTML/CSS by hand. 

In addition to CSS, I've found it pretty good for inserting items into 
JavaScript, Applet and Embed elements.

 I find that I'm attuned to a tag system that jumps out at me when 
reading.... The ZPT stuff wasn't as easy to parse visually for me.... 
but if you're a Dreamweaver user or something, I'm sure its a godsend. 

I can move quite fast in DTML, and my ability to parse it visually is 
key in my productivity.

Funny, I bought Zope's approach "hook, line & sinker", early on, with 
the various Zope books published with DTML being a major piece of the 
Zope puzzle.  DTML made sense to me then, still does.

-Jon



Peter Bengtsson wrote:

>Chris was merely suggesting. Technically ZPT is probably a better
>choice but DTML is pretty good too. On many of my projects that I
>started a longer time ago the less important templates were written in
>DTML because to me it was faster to write and the crucial ones that
>needed to last longer and might be edited by more people I used ZPT.
>
>Don't forget, for writing SQL statements and CSS sheets, DTML rocks!
>This proves why DTML won't go away as a supported templating
>"language".
>
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>On 9/8/05, Jonathan Cyr <cyrj at cyr.info> wrote:
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>> Thanks... but go easy.
>> 
>> I have to choose which features of Zope to learn and use, based on a much
>>larger criteria than I can present here.  
>> 
>> I do not wish to mix ZPT and DTML in my project... I had chosen DTML,
>>before ZPT was mature... It may be better, but I don't care for now... when
>>I'm able to re-assess which pieces of Zope to use in a future project, I may
>>well choose it.
>> 
>> As a professional programmer, you must see the advantage in adhering to a
>>project's standards and specs, as to managing the code in the project.  That
>>is why I needed to use DTML for my RSS.
>> 
>> I have chosen my mix for this project, and benefit much more from my
>>standards docs much more than any single feature like ZPT can provide.
>> 
>> As far as I know, DTML is being supported into the future, and my hand will
>>not be forced.
>> 
>> I appreciate all the hard work in developing ZPT for the community, but
>>it's just not for me, yet... probably be used in my first Zope 3 project
>>instead.
>> 
>> BTW, the solution presented by Peter hit the nail on the head... I have a
>>very nice RSS setup now for my Zope app.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> -Jon Cyr
>> 
>> Chris Withers wrote: 
>>Jonathan Cyr wrote: 
>> 
>>I am constructing an RSS 2.0 feed for a zope app.  I am creating the rss.xml
>>file in a DTML method.  
>> Use ZPT, it's much better suited to this... 
>> 
>> 
>>to include in the feed is a structured-text paragraph.  To use any XHTML in
>>a feed you must "html_quote" all of the extended characters for it to work. 
>> 
>> What do you mean by "extended characters" here? 
>> 
>> 
>>So I wish to do something like <dtml-var summary fmt="structured-text"
>>html_quote> 
>> 
>> This obviously doesn't work, (would have been cool if it did tho).  How do
>>I access the structured text and html quote translation mechanisms in an
>>expr tag. 
>> 
>> Something like <dtml-var expr="summary.structured_text().html_quote()"> 
>> 
>> 
>> ZPT does html quoting by default, so provided summary.structured_text()
>>does what yo uexpect it to, you could just do: 
>> 
>> <tal:x replace="summary/structured_text"/> 
>> 
>> That said, I'd pretty sure RSS feeds CAN include html, and it doesn't need
>>to be quoted... 
>> 
>> 
>>ps- I don't use ZPT, DTML was chose a while back, and would rather keep 
>> Well, un-choose it, especially for something new and isolated like an RSS
>>feed... 
>> 
>> 
>>the RSS in a DTML Method rather than a python script.  The layers are
>>getting pretty hairy, don't want to add indention to it 
>> 
>> Huh?! 
>> 
>> Chris 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>>Jonathan Cyr
>>cyrj at cyr.info
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