[Zope] main Zope 3 benefits

[michael nt milne]

Hi

Thanks alot for this.

I've heard that there are benefits on the security side? That it is to be
security audited etc.

Michael

On 2/2/06, Terry Hancock <hancock at anansispaceworks.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 00:14:59 +0100
> Rakotomandimby Mihamina
> <mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 15:21 +0000, michael nt milne wrote:
> > > Is there a page anywhere which lists the main benefits
> > > of Zope 3?
>
> You can find the proposal for it starting from zope.org, I
> don't know the actual URLs, but it's not hard to find by
> searching.
>
> > According to the beginer I am, the benefit is that zope2
> > will disapear (as well as zope 1, for example...). That's
> > a good reason to learn zope 3 as soon as possible :-)
>
> Not so much. Zope 3 is a complete rewrite of Zope, so it's
> been existing in parallel with Zope 2 for some time. The
> Zope 2 branch will probably take quite awhile to die out.
>
> And don't forget that it's still going to be around, even if
> they aren't actively developing it. I still have a site
> using Zope 2.5.1!
>
> > The documentation is very slim, I agree, but why not help
> > with your own little tutos? :-)
>
> It is indeed spotty.
>
> This cry "if the documentation is too poor, write your own"
> does get kind of old, though. Obviously if you understood it
> well enough to write documentation, you wouldn't be trying
> to find it!
>
> Still, Zope 3 is moving towards being better documented than
> Zope 2 was.  This is mainly a matter of making it
> "self-documenting."  In practice this often works better,
> because the "documentation" stays up to date. A big problem
> with earlier versions was documentation that was out of
> synch with the releases.
>
> The *big event* with Zope 3 is the redesign to an "interface
> + components" architecture.  This makes Zope 3 more like a
> "tool box" than a "framework" which is generally regarded as
> a good thing.  There is, of course, a "framework" called
> "Zope 3" which is built from this "tool box", but it's much
> easier to deconstruct Zope 3 and combine it with other
> Python modules.
>
> This is a really big win from the standpoint of the Python
> "Zope Product" developer, who's looking to adapt a bunch of
> pieces together to make a work web application. It's a less
> obvious win if you just do "through the web scripting".
>
> In the latter case, in fact, you're probably better off
> (right now) sticking with the Zope 2.x series, because the
> TTW interfaces for Zope 3 are still very rough (at least
> this is what the reports say -- I still haven't really
> tested it out).
>
> What I have done is to browse the Zope 3 source tree, and I
> have made use of the "interface" and "schema" modules. Very
> nice stuff!  If the rest of Zope 3 measures up to that, then
> it's going to be a joy to work with.
>
> Cheers,
> Terry
>
> --
> Terry Hancock (hancock at AnansiSpaceworks.com)
> Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com
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Michael
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