[Zope] Re: Product refreshing in Zope 2.9

[Florent Guillaume]

Peter Bengtsson wrote:
> On 1/30/06, Andreas Jung wrote:
>> --On 30. Januar 2006 17:39:11 +0000 Peter Bengtsson wrote:
>>> It's not a strange product. It's quite simple in fact.
>>> Not being able to refresh without restarting means that I can't use
>>> Zope 2.9 for python product development.
>> Why is refresh a requirement for doing Zope development? I am doing Zope
>> development since five or six years and I have never done any development
>> using Refresh...so there must be something very special with your
>> development approach?!
>>
> Sorry. It's not a _requirement_. But without it I loose productivity.
> (see my previous email on this topic with the human benchmark,
> ValueErrors and lost SESSIONS).
> 
> I too have several years of zope programming beyond the ZMI and have
> developed many products and refreshing is the only way I know to
> quickly test changes.
> Having to wait a few seconds for each test is not an option.
> 
> How do you solve this problem without refreshing? Or are you ready to
> wait for the zope restart and avoid it by writing more unit tests?

Yes most people who are serious about their developments use unit tests and 
functional tests and non-regression tests. They start by coding tests and 
doctests about code they've not yet written.

In most cases when I develop, I don't go to the ZMI until quite late in the 
process. Going to the ZMI is not productive.

That's why I, like others in this thread, don't care about refresh.

Florent

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