[Zope] Re: Product refreshing in Zope 2.9

[Peter Bengtsson]

On 1/31/06, Florent Guillaume <fg at nuxeo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Peter Bengtsson wrote:
> > On 1/31/06, Jens Vagelpohl <jens-G0EXMjp3EnnNLxjTenLetw at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> On 31 Jan 2006, at 12:02, Peter Bengtsson wrote:
> >>>> That's why I, like others in this thread, don't care about refresh.
> >>>>
> >>> Like I mentioned elsewhere, with my setup, restarting zope is gravely
> >>> inferior to zope-restart for product development.
> >>>
> >>> I'm happy to share my setup to Open Source but it's quite "personal"
> >>> so I'd have to spend as much time explaining it as I have spent
> >>> writing it.
> >>> Hmm... perhaps a screencast?
> >> I don't think there is any need for that. The situation is pretty
> >> simple: You have an itch, but no one cares enough to scratch it for
> >> you. The only sane way forward is for you to scratch the itch yourself.
> >>
> > But that's what I'm doing!
> > Thanks to Dieter I've got som genuine technical help on what it might
> > be instead of just people saying "that's not how I do it, give up"
> >
> > And I don't understand how Zope product refresh doesn't have a higher
> > attention priority when it's so useful.
>
> Refresh works well in limited situations, but it *cannot work* if you have
> global registries or many interrelated modules.
>
The setup I use takes care of dependencies in a semi-manual way. In my
refresh-config I define which other products depend on the one I'm
defining. Problem solved.

> > As far as I know, it's the
> > only way to make changes to a zope2 product without having to restart
> > the server causing downtime and lost sessions.
>
> Then use ZEO. And on a development server you can have the sessions in a
> shared ZEO filestorage.
>
Didn't know that was possible.
Would still be nice to have a working product refresh in z2.9 :)


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