[Zope] Re: Improved Zope Org Proposal

Max M maxm at mxm.dk
Tue Jun 27 05:46:30 EDT 2006


Chris Withers wrote:
> David H wrote:
>> This is sounding more bizzare with each day and it doesnt feel good.  
>> Zope cant maintain a friggin web site?  Isnt that rich.
> 
> Hey David,
> 
> Cool, thanks so much for volunteering to provide all the resources, 
> coders and support staff to look after a 10,000 user site with all the 
> problems that entails.
> 
> Oh? What's that? You weren't volunteering?


Personally I have not visited zope.org for a few years for anything 
other than releases. And I am a long time pro developer.

It seems pretty obvious these days that having a one-shop zope.org site 
is too ambitious. Perhaps even wrong guided.


I wouldn't even know what should be on it. Zope 2 development mostly 
means Plone these days. Plone has a great site already, so no reason to 
do to much about that.


Pure Zope 3 is in even less use than pure Zope 2.

The exciting stuff is going on in Five and 2-3 integration. But why the 
heck make a site about that?

You could say that zope has been beaten by its own success.


The only sensible approach I can see is to make a new zope.org with 
releases, installation guides etc. It should also showcases the great 
cms/applications that are build on top of it. With links to those sites.

On those individual sites there are lots of documentation, product 
releases programming tricks etc.


Eg. I develop in Plone, and practically all I knew about programming in 
pure Zope 2 is useless now that I am using UML/AT/AGX in Plone. It's 
like assembly language to a python programmer. I assume that it is the 
same for other frameworks.

Having a 'Products' section on zope.org probably doesn't even make sense 
anymore. It is simply to low level.


Drop all the old documentation and move it to old.zope.org. Just in 
cases there is a nugget somewhere.


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