[Zope] Re: Improved Zope Org Proposal

[Jake]

Zope.org is becoming a worse and worse face of Zope.

If anyone were to ask me about Zope at this point, I would point them to
Plone.org which not only has more relevant data, better searches, better
organization but, of course, looks good.

Just my personal opinion, but if Zope Corp is going to use the namesake of
Zope they should also take on Zope.org as a full responsibility, meaning
all aspects with someone who is a full time Zope.org person.

Jake
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On Tue, June 27, 2006 5:46 am, Max M said:
> Chris Withers wrote:
>> David H wrote:
>>> This is sounding more bizzare with each day and it doesnt feel good.
>>> Zope cant maintain a friggin web site?  Isnt that rich.
>>
>> Hey David,
>>
>> Cool, thanks so much for volunteering to provide all the resources,
>> coders and support staff to look after a 10,000 user site with all the
>> problems that entails.
>>
>> Oh? What's that? You weren't volunteering?
>
>
> Personally I have not visited zope.org for a few years for anything
> other than releases. And I am a long time pro developer.
>
> It seems pretty obvious these days that having a one-shop zope.org site
> is too ambitious. Perhaps even wrong guided.
>
>
> I wouldn't even know what should be on it. Zope 2 development mostly
> means Plone these days. Plone has a great site already, so no reason to
> do to much about that.
>
>
> Pure Zope 3 is in even less use than pure Zope 2.
>
> The exciting stuff is going on in Five and 2-3 integration. But why the
> heck make a site about that?
>
> You could say that zope has been beaten by its own success.
>
>
> The only sensible approach I can see is to make a new zope.org with
> releases, installation guides etc. It should also showcases the great
> cms/applications that are build on top of it. With links to those sites.
>
> On those individual sites there are lots of documentation, product
> releases programming tricks etc.
>
>
> Eg. I develop in Plone, and practically all I knew about programming in
> pure Zope 2 is useless now that I am using UML/AT/AGX in Plone. It's
> like assembly language to a python programmer. I assume that it is the
> same for other frameworks.
>
> Having a 'Products' section on zope.org probably doesn't even make sense
> anymore. It is simply to low level.
>
>
> Drop all the old documentation and move it to old.zope.org. Just in
> cases there is a nugget somewhere.
>
>
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