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[michael nt milne]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

On 11/13/06, Chris Withers <chris at simplistix.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Andrew Milton wrote:
> > +-------[ michael nt milne ]----------------------
> > | "yeah, I can see how this kind of attitude draws lots and lots of new
> > | followers to zope."
>
> Oh, he's still alive, how unfortunate...
>
> Thanks, Andrew, for helping him avoid my procmail rule :-(
>
> > | whole attitude here is one of sneering and schoolboy name calling.
> >
> > You need to trust that those you can identify as senior members of the
> > community, are telling the rest of you that this guy is full of crap.
>
> Sadly, Michael is coming from the "full of crap" position himself...
> then again, I thought it took one to know one... apparently not ;-)
>
> > The single thing that should have alerted you that something was up.
> >
> > *** Chris Withers and I agreed on something d8)
>
> Yeah, this is somewhat of a system invariant ;-)
>
> > Imagine for a moment this guy came to you for a job, claiming 25+ years
> of
> > dev experience, and 2+ years of Zope experience.
>
> Michael wouldn't know a Zope developer if one bit him on the nose...
>
> > The people slagging this guys are pissed. Because the guy has done NO
> > research, and no reading whatsover, and then claims Zope needs to be
> > rewritten (of course, it IS already being rewritten, which shows how
> much research he
> > did, but, not for any of the reasons he listed [because they are crap]).
>
> My point exactly...
>
> Interestingly, I offer Nancy Donnelly as a counter point here. She's
> similarly new here, but is trying hard to learn and understand, and is
> taking a "hey, these guys can help me" attitude. Sure enough, she's
> getting plenty of help...
>
> It's not all newbies who get into trouble here, just those who ask for
> it...
>
> Chris
>
> --
> Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting
>             - http://www.simplistix.co.uk
>



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michael
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