[Zope] Legacy Perl code and Zope. A pipe dream?

Derek Basch dbasch at yahoo.com
Tue Oct 3 13:54:56 EDT 2006


--- Jonathan <dev101 at magma.ca> wrote:

> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Derek Basch" <dbasch at yahoo.com>
> To: "Lennart Regebro" <regebro at gmail.com>; <zope at zope.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Legacy Perl code and Zope. A pipe dream?
> 
> 
> > --- Lennart Regebro <regebro at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/3/06, Derek Basch <dbasch at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > I have about a million lines of Perl code/crap that I would like to 
> >> > refactor to Zope.
> >> > Is this even possible?
> >>
> >> Refactor? No. But it's quite likely that you can redo it quite quickly
> >> with Zope thanks to all the third-party products.
> >>
> >> What does you perl code/crap do? What type of site is it?
> >
> > Thanks for the responses everyone.
> >
> > Perhaps refactor wasn't the best choice of words. The site is a very large 
> > online gaming website
> > (not gambling). The legacy perl code does many, many things 
> > (administration, game play,
> > accounting, message boards, publishing, mail, etc...) and really is around 
> > a million lines.
> > Rewriting the current perl code in python/zope would take a small eternity 
> > even with the rapid
> > development that zope permits.
> >
> > I saw that the zope-perl project is virtually dead and was hoping that 
> > some magical zope to perl
> > bridge existed. Something that would allow me to use our existing perl 
> > code as an external method
> > or someting similar. Forgive me if my zope terminology is a bit off as I 
> > haven't worked with zope
> > in about three years.
> >
> > As it stands it looks like I will need to use a PHP or Perl web 
> > application framework.
> >
> > PHP because it has decent Perl to PHP support:
> >
> > http://www.zend.com/php5/articles/php5-perl.php
> >
> > Or Perl, for obvious reasons. Perhaps something like Catalyst:
> >
> > http://www.catalystframework.org/
> >
> > However, neither of the above solutions is as enticing as the joy I am 
> > sure I would get from Zope.
> > Which way should I go?
> 
> It sounds like you already have a web application (in perl) up and running, 
> so what do you want Zope (or anything else) to accomplish for you?
> 
> 
> Jonathan 

Yes, the application is currently deployed but it is the gnarliest mess of ten year old spaghetti
code you have ever seen. No session handling, no automatic CGI variable parsing, no
authentication....no fun. I am attempting to find a path towards a proper web application
framework without having to rewrite every single line of legacy code. For example, all new
projects would adhere to framework xyz and the legacy code would still play nicely with the
framework.


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