[Zope] Was Problem using nested dtml-in with zsql

[Tim Nash]

BTW,  Andreas,  It is probably extra work to maintain both ZPT  and DTML in
each Zope release. We want you to know that we appreciate the extra work and
your skills.
:)




On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Allen Schmidt Sr. <
aschmidt at fredericksburg.com> wrote:

>  +++++111111111
> We love zope on our site and continue to build new things almost daily and
> all with DTML and ZSQL.  Not a single line of ZPT anywhere within our 7gb
> Data.fs that has been making us all money and employing many folks for
> almost 8 years now as a newspaper website. AND in the birthplace of Zope....
> www.Fredericksburg.com/Virginia/  8^)
>
> Cheers!
> -Allen
>
>
>
> Tim Nash wrote:
>
> +1
> Well spoken. It is painful to see all the cheers for django templates when
> dtml has been around longer and is just as good, maybe better.
>
> ZPT may also be fantastic but I haven't needed them yet. They seem to be
> designed to solve web editing problems circa 2002.
>
> -Tim
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Kees de Brabander <
> cj.de.brabander at hccnet.nl> wrote:
>
>> +1
>> cb
>>
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>> Van: zope-bounces at zope.org [mailto:zope-bounces at zope.org] Namens Garry
>> Saddington
>> Verzonden: zaterdag 8 november 2008 12:54
>> Aan: zope at zope.org
>> Onderwerp: Re: [Zope] Was Problem using nested dtml-in with zsql
>>
>> On Saturday 08 November 2008 06:21, Andreas Jung wrote:
>> > Any particular reason for using DTML instead of ZPT? DTML is dead.
>> Firstly let me say that I do not wish to relight the ZPT vs DTML argument,
>> only to make a few points.
>>
>> I find this an extraordinary attitude coming from someone so important to
>> this community. I am sure there are many developments out there relying on
>> DTML and I am also sure that the developers are earning a living from
>> those
>> developments. Will employers be happy that the technology used for their
>> sites is "dead" ? Will they continue to pay these developers?
>>
>> Can you give one reason why DTML is bad that is not based on personal
>> preference, presentation tools or the cognitive ability of developers to
>> understand where variables are coming from? Does it not work if used
>> properly?
>>
>> If someone comes to Zope and prefers to use DTML then let him, don't
>> criticise instead of help him. Zope is a fantastic piece of software,
>> however it is used, and its use should be encouraged.
>>
>> I prefer DTML and always have done and always will, no matter what this
>> list
>> says and I am sure there are many more like me. DTML is available and is
>> used, let's support it properly on this list.
>>
>> While I was learning Zope I had many questions, but I had to work most of
>> them out myself, not wanting to get lambasted again on this list for using
>> DTML.
>> If help was more forthcoming I'm sure that I would have learned more
>> quickly
>> rather than in relative isolation.
>>
>> Is the ZMI going to be re-written using ZPT?
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Garry
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