[Zope3-dev] Re: Use case not covered for translation of message ids

[Godefroid Chapelle]

Jim Fulton wrote:

> Martijn Faassen wrote:
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>> Godefroid Chapelle wrote:
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>>> Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
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>>>> No, it's not. Translation needs to be explicit, IMO.
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>>> explicit vs implicit is not a all or nothing rule : the python code 
>>> is explicitely stating there should be translation. Which is enough... 
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>> I agree with Godefroid here. It is explicit, and it's a lot easier on 
>> the developer to be able to do this in the Python code in many cases, 
>> instead of having to modify the page templates.
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> 
> The Python code is explicitly aying that the value is a message id.
> It is *not* explcitly aying that it should be translated.  For better
> or worse, message ids are also strings.  It is common to do string
> opeations on message ids without translation. In fact, there is no way,
> in general to know that translation should be done.  If you look
> at the example that Godefroid gave, doing translation implcitly is
> clearly the wrong thing to do.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
I can understand this : while discussing with Stephan on IRC, I did not 
know if I was really for the inclusion of this patch.

But I really want the current comportment of implicitely translating 
messageids coming back from the Python code to stay as it is.

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