[Zope3-dev] Re: tal:define="..." considered harmful?

Tonico Strasser contact_tonico at yahoo.de
Mon Feb 13 10:37:10 EST 2006

Tres Seaver wrote:
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> Lennart Regebro wrote:
>> On 2/13/06, Tonico Strasser <contact_tonico at yahoo.de> wrote:
>>> Looking forward to see explicit ZPTs soon :)
>> Me too. I'd also like the macros to be called rather than expanded, so
>> that any error messages report the error in the macro rather than in
>> an expanded main template. This should be possible if we have explicit
>> macro parameters.
>> In fact, this would not only solve the two biggest problems with
>> macros, it would make the macros functions, which is much better. If
>> we don't want to break backwards compatibility, calling them functions
>> would be a good idea.
> That's a non-goal for me:  macros are *not* functions, and aren't
> supposed to be "called":  the point of them is that they operate in the
> context of the caller.  In addition to the loss of functionality (slots,
>   as you note), calls are much more expensive than macros.

Hi Tres,

I'm interested in your opinion about parameters for macros.

Do you think this is explicit enough?:

<ul tal:define="list main_navigation">
   <li metal:use-macro="macros/li_repeat"/>

Or do you think explicit parameters would make things clearer?:

   <li metal:use-macro="macros/li_repeat"
       metal:with-params="list main_navigation"/>


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