[Zope3-dev] Re: AW: Re: AW: relying on win32api in windows supportofzc.zope3recipes

[Martijn Faassen]

Benji York wrote:
> Martijn Faassen wrote:
>> It would be nice if one could install Zope 3-based *applications* 
>> using a Windows installer. But to ask developers to install all the 
>> *library* dependencies separately using click-through wizards is 
>> rather strange. 
> 
> As a recovering Windows developer, I agree.

Another point is that Stephan makes it seem as if eggs are some *nixy 
thing that Windows developers don't know about.

I just realize that's rather funny, as developers on Linux for example 
also tend to complain about eggs as they don't work with their normal 
distribution's package management system.

All of this ignores that both Windows installers and the distribution 
package management system are not generally used to set up development 
environments. That is, it could be used to set up part of a development 
environment - stable tools, and libraries with APIs that don't change 
rapidly. But often a development project needs to rely on newer versions 
of libraries, and frequently even has to dive into the library and 
change it. This is where a buildout environment fits in.

It's not the "normal" way of doing things on any platform though. That's 
because buildout is primarily a development tool, which hopefully in the 
future will grow more facilities to make deployment (as Windows 
installer, .deb package, or whatever) really easy as well.

Regards,

Martijn