[Zope3-dev] Re: Some thoughts on Zope 3, Zope 3 applications, and Zope 3 instances

[Martin Aspeli]

Martijn Faassen wrote:

> My hope is that with Grok we can inject some sensibilities into Zope 3 
> that focus more on getting things done easily and quickly. I think that 
> the basis built with an attitude of reusable and flexible components is 
> great to build a powerful "getting things done easily and quickly" 
> system on top. But we really really need such a system, and I hope Grok 
> will be more than just a new technology but will also help drive a shift 
> in focus in the Zope 3 world.

And I fully support it; it's even conceivable I could contribute one 
day, if I find time. This project is really exciting and deserves more 
traction than it has at the moment.

It would be very interesting also if there was a path through which 
Plone developers and other Five-dependents could start using Grok 
productivity boosting tools.

> We have core Zope 3 developers here at this sprint (Philipp, Christian 
> Theune), so I have some hopes we'll succeed. :)

... but it is a fine team :)

> So, I agree we need what Jim proposes. We just also need what Grok tries 
> to offer. I think that as an open source development community that 
> wants to grow, we need Grok a lot more than we need splitting up Zope 3 
> into eggs.

+1, though perhaps one makes the other easier.

Martin