[Zope3-Users] Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

[Martin Aspeli]

On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 16:50:30 -0000, Joel Moxley  
<jfmoxley at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've followed the Guido blogs/discussion loosely.  As a relative
> newcomer, this is my first real experience with the Python community's
> confusion of Zope2 and Zope3.  I've seen on the list that people have
> been discussing renaming and other remedies to this problem.

You're not the only one.

> In my opinion, I think a little branding could go a long way.  Instead
> of renaming the entire project, call it  "Zope3 Zebra" or "Zope3
> Panther" (clearly these are horrible, but you can see where I am going
> with this).
>
> Then create a dedicated website www.zope3zebra.org that basically
> links the Zope 3 book, tutorials, example code, and existing projects
> like SchoolTool on the front page.  Clearly brand it as a
> "industrial-strength, pythonic web framework" and a complete rewrite
> from Zope2.  Provide a link to all Python web frameworks and explain
> the advantages of industrial-strength, non-hackish code for people who
> want to do it right the first time.  This front page will provide a
> jumping off point for zope3 devs and users.
>
> Does this make sense?  It's only a small rebrand (and the Zope3 stays
> intact) and an assembly of components that already exist.  Basically,
> you can use this occasion as a coming out party... "Zope3 is here, and
> we're for real".
>
> Bottom line, I think the proof is in the pudding, and Zope3 quality is
> superb so it's not going anywhere.  But a little better
> organization/marketing to the outside world could go a long way.

I'm in no position to make decisions, but I think this is a wonderful  
idea. It strikes a good balance between retaining the Zope brand and  
marking a fresh start.

Philipp W and others have commented on Zope 3's utter lack of marketing  
(anyone been to zope.org lately?) and how it is probably hurting its  
adoption. Having just learnt Zope 3 myself, I'm telling others it's  
wonderful, and then they start talking about web services[1] and wonder  
what I've been smoking. Very sad.

Martin

[1] SOAP

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