[Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Is Zope Zope2 or Zope3?

Martin Aspeli optilude at gmx.net
Sat Jan 21 18:46:32 EST 2006


On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:11:12 -0000, David Johnson  
<djohnson at jsatech.com> wrote:

> This is unfortunate.  I do think Zope 3 will get the recognition it  
> deserves
> in time.  I feel the Zope community is more focused on how it works than  
> how
> it is marketed and this seems like the best long term approach.

I think a mature open source project needs to be cognizant of both.  
Obviously, Zope will ultimately be chosen on its technical merit, but  
consider that the system will also be technically better the more people  
test it in  real life, bring their use cases to bear on the design, and  
ultimately get involved and contribute. There is a duality between  
recognition and quality that's probably a little accidental, but I don't  
think ignoring one or the other is the best idea.

For Zope, this issue is compounded a little by the fact that Zope 2 *does*  
have some brand recognition, and has been a round a while. People have  
formed opinions of it already, and they probably associate it with certain  
systems (e.g. Plone, Silva, CPS). To a certain extent, Zope 3 faces an  
uphill struggle because it has to undo some of the perceptions of Zope 2  
that no longer apply to it (of course it also benefits from its brand  
recognition).

> People will shy away from it as it is not well known (like Linux in the
> early days), but enough people will find it, and will develop great
> applications.  We plan on deploying it as part of critical  
> infrastructure at
> a number of large and reputable clients.  My biggest fear is that someone
> else will discover it!  The whole "Crossing the Chasm" model.

Well, I certainly hope so. But the landscape is quite different today than  
it was when Linux was at this stage. Taking the "softer" sides of the  
development seriously certainly couldn't hurt. :)

Martin

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