In Zope2 every object has an 'id' which meant that you can use someobject.getId() to find out what name the object is stored under in its container. Is there an equivalent in zope3? ...or am I looking for a solution to a problem that doesn't exist? -- Peter Bengtsson, work www.fry-it.com home www.peterbe.com hobby www.issuetrackerproduct.com