[Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

[Kurt Zitze]

if you want to raise the userbase of zope, the first and most obvious thing to do is, get a forum running! mailing lists are bu******* and completly out of date. it is max cumbersome to login into your email account to do a post and so on, i think i dont need to enumerate all the disadvantages of a mailing list compared to a forum. i am even not aware of how to replay to a certain message with this mailing list. why make it difficult if it could be easy? just get a forum and you have done 50% of the things you could do to improve the development experience with zope.

and if you finaly have one, put it on the start site, not like this mailing list that is so to say hidden!

im a new zope user and my experiences so far are, that everything is extremly unobvious. its not obvious that there are packages for zope. its not obvious that there is a new form package that is better then the integrated formlib. its not obvious how to use it, even with the documentation. for example its not obvious, that i have to make a skin to use the z3c.form package. its not obvious which packages i need too, they are only mentioned as site notes, "look at the pagelet package for a more advanced..." etc.

everything in zope is not obvious, at least not to me. everything has to be found out in hours of studying the sources! reading the books, using google to find sources that arent linked nowhere. i stumbled over nabble, i stumbled over nearly everythink i essentialy have to know!

the result is, users new to zope have no clue where to start. its extremly difficult to learn it. i can learn every other technology by just reading online sources and asking in forums, zope is the first project where i have to say, without the books, no chance.

finally, if you want to improve, just get forum. it couldnt be easier. :)
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