Hi, I have a breadcrumbs python filesystem script. It's a long script that constructs dictionaries and places them in a list for a master_template to display. The dictionaries look like this relative = context.portal_url.getRelativeContentPath(context) .... code for various things ... ordinaryUrl = portal_url + '/' + join (relative, '/') ordinaryId = relative[-1] ordinaryD = { 'id' : ordinaryId , 'title' : obj.title_or_id() , 'url' : ordinaryUrl} In some cases I need to get an id for a zope page template instead of for 'context'. Can anybody tell me how to do that, or better yet tell me where the way to do it is documented? I haven't had much luck searching the source code for something that'll help. cheers, Phil