[Brian] Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 has been released - you can download it from Zope.org: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.4.0a1/ [...] Note that this is an alpha release, so it is available as a source distribution only. We will make binary releases available with the first beta release. [Albert] Congratulations!!! Two questions: 1. Any guesstimate (vague upper and lower bounds) on first beta release for the binaries, (or even just a vague lower bound - "probably not before ...")? 2. In the Migration Guide: "A note to component developers - as of Zope 2.4 ExtensionClass has not been updated to support all of the new "magic protocols" that Python classes support (we're hoping that EC will go away soon)." What does "hoping that EC will go away soon" mean? I thought that ExtensionClass was pretty fundamental to Zope?? Does this just mean that the limitation on "magic protocols" will go away soon, or is there some URL I should look at re replacement for EC? Thanks, and congratulations again.