Hi, as you might have noticed there was a sprint and we'd like to update you on what happened. :) Sorry if we under-communicated beforehand. As part of the DZUG[1] sprint series[2] we tried looking into what a refreshed ZMI for Zope 4 could be. We started working on some code (it's really not that much) and gathered our thoughts[3] about the ZMI that might be interesting for you to read. We hope to follow up on this in the near future. However, we also discussed technical and organisational hurdles that we met and that kept us from "just doing" the ZMI and we're currently approaching the Zope Foundation board about "officially" establishing the Zope 4 project and concentrating our efforts on that. We think there will be a need (and we have some ideas for that) to establish project management, a mission statement and road map so that we can all channel our efforts together. Cheers, Christian Theune (and Charlie Clark, Veit Schiele, Yvo Schubbe, Jens Vagelpohl) [1] In case you haven't heard, we're in the process of renaming this to "Python Software Verband" - Germany's Python Software Foundation. So PySV will be showing up instead of DZUG in the future. [2] We're working on a sprint series concept that will establish sprint opportunities for Python-related projects in Germany on a quarterly basis. I personally hope to use those to work on stuff like Zope 4 in a more productive manner than with those sprint days attached to an already exhausting conference. [3] http://docs.zope.org/zmi.core/thoughts.html -- Christian Theune · ct@gocept.com gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting, development, hosting, operations