Hi, Martijn Faassen schrieb:
Christian Theune wrote:
Stephan Richter schrieb:
On Saturday 23 February 2008, Jim Fulton wrote:
The additional version specification should be merged into the extends version section. The version "1.3.1dev" is the version the develop egg specifies. Yes. That's how it works now.
Cool, then I think the behavior is correct. I think it is merely a matter of communicating that things work this way.
I agree.
Shame on you, Christian, are you a Grok developer? :)
Too little in the last time, I suppose. ;)
It's a clear DRY violation, the name of the package (and even the version number) repeats here.
It's not clear to me that it's a DRY violation (see my argument that those functions are actually orthogonal). When applying DRY we still need to beware that we don't lock out combinations that are currently possible/helpful.
This means we should not be satisfied with the response of communication if there's a way to fix this. There are two ways to fix this:
* change 'develop'. It's clear this one is out. People like its current behavior. I'm surprised not more people were surprised than me, but I guess I'm just as smart as most people. :)
Again, I was surprised by this, but thinking about it and understanding what's going on I think I like it the way it is. I agree that we need to make it easier to understand and let people be less surprised.
* add a new option, 'really_develop', that adds the thing to [versions] and to the develop path at the same time.
I really (pun semi-intended) don't like that name, but the idea seems attractive. I experimented with recipes that change other recipes' configuration at run-time, but had a bad experience because of the part-ordering that prevents this, otherwise I'd say you could use a recipe for simpler declaration of develop eggs. That would make you type more in each buildout, though. Christian -- gocept gmbh & co. kg - forsterstrasse 29 - 06112 halle (saale) - germany www.gocept.com - ct@gocept.com - phone +49 345 122 9889 7 - fax +49 345 122 9889 1 - zope and plone consulting and development