On Nov 1, 2007, at 1:00 AM, Alexander Limi wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:29:36 -0700, Andreas Jung <lists@zopyx.com> wrote:
The recommendation is still "System python is evil, evil, evil" (quoting Jim).
Sure, but if you ever want to be able to tell users to do:
easy_install plone
to get their Plone site, it's a necessary evil evil evil. ;)
So don't do that. Plone is an application (afaik) not a library. I thought Plone had an installer that installed a local Python.
We generally encourage not to use the system Python in everything we ship (Windows, Mac and Unified installers all ship their own Python)
Cool. Note that I think this problem will get worse as system packages include more and more of the packages we use. I read yesterday that the Python in Mac OS X Leopard includes zope.interface.
— but I really hope we won't be stuck with Python 2.4 after the world has moved on to Python 2.5 and 2.6.
This is really a separate issue. I hope we won't either. Unfortunately, supporting them is non-trivial, I think we've made a lot of progress.
I agree that for proper deployments, you shouldn't use the system Python, but there's the case of letting people get started with Plone easily from their Ubuntu or Mac OS X (Leopard ships with Python 2.5 and easy_install by default) — we should be able to let them do that too.
I don't agree. easy_install is really not well suited to installing applications IMO. I think an installer is a better idea for installing applications, for lots of reasons. Jim -- Jim Fulton Zope Corporation