folks, I've already posted this problem to the Zope list, which is the correct place to post I believe, but to no avail. So I'm trying here - apologies, but just as I'm getting really excited about Zope I hit a brick wall (...familiar lament?) and I'm at a complete loss. So apologies for my newbieness; here's my problem: my zope won't load products into its products folder. I had some success initially. Then I found some bugs in my initialize code that were breaking the product. From then on, whenever I changed the initialize code, the changes were only getting reflected sporadically in the traceback. I found I could even delete my product from the Products folder and it would stay in Zope. Now even when I create a really simple product, it doesn't appear. I presume I am doing something stupid. Especially considering I can install 3rd party products without a problem. My assumption was that to create a product: I create a Test folder in the Products directory, with an __init__.py which contains an import Test and an initialize(context) function. Then I do a context.registerClass(stuff). Then I do the logic stuff in Test.py. Even if I don't put any logic in Test.py, *something* should appear in the products list, right? How can I start debugging this problem? Thanks so much for any help... Seb.