Hi I have just started experimenting with the JPE (Java Python Extension - http://www.python9.org/p9-cdrom/10/index.htm & http://www.arakne.com/jpe.htm ) as presented at Python9. I can successfully access java classes/methods through external python methods called from dtml (products come next ;-). (only just got it to build and run, with only the most simple of tests, now I need to get my head around the issues of returned data types, and what it will mean to persistance ;-) I think this technology holds all sort's of interesting possibilities to extend Zope so that it could make native rmi calls to java services, maybe you could use JSP's as backend components (a bit like the PHP adaptor, mind you one might ask why ;-). If nothing else it can go some way to alleviating some of the regular objections I have encountered promoting zope, that talking to java services through mechanisms other than xml-rpc isn't really feasible. (one thing that interests me is taking some standard java implementations of services and bolting them on to zope ie JXTA (mind you there may well already be a python implementation in the works ;-) Is anyone else exploring this stuff? If so drop me a line. If any one else is interested I'll put up a wiki page to start a discussion going (benefit's, technical issues etc...) Rgds Tim -- Tim Hoffman Zute Pty Ltd mobile: 0411 068888 fax: +61 8 6210 1883 email: timh@zute.net