Well, I just tried to post several paragraphs to the security interface wiki, and netscape reported a proxy problem. It then ate my posting instead of giving it back to me when I pressed back. So I'm going to try to recreate what I wrote here and hope someone will post it for me or something. (If only w3m supported cookies...) 1) "in an anonymous context" made me think first of anonymous users. I'm really not sure it's a very evocative phrase. It's really about manipulating a reference to the object instance itself rather than calling one of its methods. 2) The doc is great, but I also like 'command reference' type things where you get the complete syntax and semantics for each method. If I can only have one doc, I'll take this one, but I can wish for both <grin>. 3) Although I've written and worked with python Products (and with python itself for longer), I really don't know what "subobjects where the subobject supports the setting of arbitrary attributes" are. How about an example of one of those? 4) Having read this doc, I now understand how the current security model works much better. I think that indicates that this interface is definately a move in the right direction in terms of making the whole thing more understandable and usable. --RDM