I am running Plone-2.1.1. I recently upgraded from zope-2.8.3 to zope-2.8.4 with no apparent issues. However, today when I attempted to view the properties of the Document content type within portal_types, i.e. I used a URL ending with /portal_types/Document/manage_propertiesForm. I received the following error message. The problem happened with all the content types, not just this one. I switched back to zope-2.8.3 and the problem went away. Just so you know. Does this need reporting as a bug? If so, does it go to the zope collector or the plone collector? Something similar was reported ages ago with zope-2.6.3 and CMF, but it may not be related. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 113, in publish request, bind=1) File "/opt/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py", line 88, in mapply if debug is not None: return debug(object,args,context) File "/opt/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 40, in call_object result=apply(object,args) # Type s<cr> to step into published object. File "/var/opt/zope/default/Products/CMFCore/utils.py", line 405, in manage_propertiesForm return form(self, REQUEST, *args, **my_kw) File "/opt/zope/lib/python/Shared/DC/Scripts/Bindings.py", line 311, in __call__ return self._bindAndExec(args, kw, None) File "/opt/zope/lib/python/Shared/DC/Scripts/Bindings.py", line 348, in _bindAndExec return self._exec(bound_data, args, kw) File "/opt/zope/lib/python/App/special_dtml.py", line 175, in _exec try: result = render_blocks(self._v_blocks, ns) File "/opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_In.py", line 703, in renderwob try: append(render(section, md)) File "/opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Let.py", line 76, in render return render_blocks(self.section, md) File "/opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Util.py", line 196, in eval return eval(code, d) File "<string>", line 0, in ? AttributeError: min Tony Addyman -- Eur Ing A.M.Addyman, School of Computing, Science and Engineering University of Salford, Salford, M5 4WT