I can understand the desire to include docutils in Zope. We made this decision for Zope 3 a while ago. Such a decision needs to be made *very* carefully for intellectual property reasons. Contributors other than Zope Corporation employees can only check in *their* code. This is important to reduce the risk of an IP problem. This means, unfortunatelky, that third-party code puts a burden on Zope Corporation, and thus, the community, since we become a bottle neck. Whatever we do with distutils, we have to make sure that Zope Corporation is involved and that ZC employees check in any code changes. (I assume that Andreas was a ZC employee when this code was originally checked in.) WRT location, I'd like to keep things as simple as possible. Top-level packages in the Zope 2 tree should be in lib/python. This is what was done for Zope 3 and it has worked well. Andreas, I'd be happy to sort this out with you off line if you like. Perhaps we can do with Zope 2 what we did for Zope 3, and, for Zope 2.8, perhaps we can even share the same tree. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:jim@zope.com Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714 http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org