Hello, I'd rather use a mailer stub for testing. Like the one in zope.sendmail.tests.test_mailer.py ... class SMTP(object): ... Something like this can be setup for individual tests with <utility name="mailer-name" provides="zope.sendmail.interfaces.IMailer" factory="your.own.mailerFactory" /> def mailerFactory(): mailer = SMTPMailer() mailer.smtp = SMTP return mailer Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 2:48:57 PM, you wrote: JWK> Hello, JWK> We're using zope.sendmail to send mail from our applications. These JWK> applications are built on top of a more generic application library. It JWK> is this application library that depends on zope.sendmail. This JWK> application library listens for certain events and then can decide to JWK> send out an email. JWK> Obviously, when running the tests for the concrete application no mail JWK> is allowed to be actually sent. JWK> Zope.sendmail explains in its README.txt that the developer using JWK> zope.sendmail should himself take care of not sending emails (by setting JWK> up a test layer for example, that would register a no-op IMailDelivery JWK> utility). JWK> I had hoped that somehow zope.sendmail would automagically "detect" it JWK> is used during test runs and then would not send out any mails. JWK> I dug around in zope.testing and found the cleanup module that seems to JWK> provide (if I understand correctly) a global registry of things to JWK> cleanup after tests. I wonder if this could be extended to also be able JWK> to register routines for globally setting up stuff - in this case it JWK> could stub the mail delivery so that never ever any mail is actually JWK> send out when running tests. JWK> Questions: JWK> 1) how do others make sure that applications that directly or indirectly JWK> trigger sending mails do not actually send during testing? JWK> 2) am I on the right track thinking a "set up" equivalent of JWK> zope.testing.cleanup could be useful for these cases? JWK> kind regards, JWK> jw JWK> -- JWK> Jan-Wijbrand Kolman JWK> _______________________________________________ JWK> Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org JWK> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev JWK> ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** JWK> (Related lists - JWK> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce JWK> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) -- Best regards, Adam GROSZER mailto:agroszer@gmail.com -- Quote of the day: To be upset over what you don't have is to waste what you do have. - Ken S. Keyes