-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote:
On Apr 8, 2009, at 11:29 PM, Tres Seaver wrote:
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Martin Aspeli wrote:
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
To stir things up: I would like to suggest renumbering the next Zope 2 release to Zope 4. That reflects the large refactoring that is being done to clean up the codebase and fully eggify Zope. There are enough changes to warrant a new major version bump. -100 again. We need to stop confusing people!
The only way we could do this would be if we definitely, 100%, with-an-axe killed off any notion of Zope 3 as an app server or application development framework and told everyone "the thing you need to be using if you like Zope, is this Zope thing that's basically Zope 2.14).
No. It would only mean that there was one Zope application thing (pluggabel application platform ...)
Agreed.
We already have: "Le roi est mort, vive le roi!" and all that. Jim has pronounced Zope3^H^H^H^HDecoy DOA.
No. I was only referring to the Zope 2 wanna-be application implemented with Zope 3.
That is what I meant. For branding purposes (what this discussion si about) we would like to avoid using "Zope3" as a name for what is left, beecause it implies "successor to Zope2".
I certainly think the components that such an application is made of, including application-server components have a long and happy life ahead of them.
Nobody is every going to care about Zope3-the-appserver, as opposed to "the-libraries-harvested-from- Zope3" (at least, the folks who might care are a tiny minority for branding purposes).
I don't think the term "app server" is crisp. To me "app server" != pluggable application.
Right. There exist hoops we make typical Z2 applications jump through, mostly unrelated to the real requirements for the app: those hoops are to make the app "play nice" inside the "bean^W^W^Wapplication container" which is the ZMI. Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tseaver@palladion.com Palladion Software "Excellence by Design" http://palladion.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJ3hPd+gerLs4ltQ4RAhKKAKCkwmS7tm8VLsjMVLkzpx+HK01pHQCfbapU Km5+H0AD3glgxKXq/DuAOB0= =wrNL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----