I got tired of seeing things like /home/mg/tmp/buildout-eggs/zope.testing-3.8.6-py2.5.egg/zope/testing/testrunner/debug.py:23: DeprecationWarning: zope.testing.doctest is deprecated in favour of the Python standard library doctest module from zope.testing import doctest and since zope.testing's trunk hasn't got the problem fully licked yet (importing zope.testing.renormalizing causes a deprecation warning about zope.testing.doctest), I created a 3.8 branch based on the last public zope.testing release (3.8.6), downgraded the DeprecationWarning into a PendingDeprecationWarning, and released zope.testing 3.8.7. zope.testing's trunk is henceforth known as 3.9.0pre. Any ideas about fixing the deprecation warning caused by renormalizing.py? All it does is 'import doctest' which, due to Python's unfortunate import semantics, is interpreted as 'from zope.testing import doctest' Perhaps a from __future__ import absolute_import would help at the top? But it's only availably starting from Python 2.5, and I think zope.testing wants to be compatible with Python 2.4 too. Ideas? Marius Gedminas -- http://pov.lt/ -- Zope 3 consulting and development